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Started by Warspite, November 02, 2009, 08:33:38 AM

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Caliga

I briefly glanced at this thread and thought it said "Metal Second Opinions".

Yes, you're right about "2 Minutes to Midnight" kicking total fucking ass.  :hug:
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Iormlund

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 03, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
Can you go to a different center if you want to? I didn't realize you had an assigned one.

I don't know about Madrid, but in here they are assigned by area. I'm not sure if you are supposed to be able to go to another one, but I do it nevertheless (my district got split in two a decade or so ago and I keep going to the same doctor and nobody has ever given me trouble about it).

DGuller

Can you please say anything bad about the Spanish health care system, anything at all?

MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Iormlund on November 03, 2009, 02:55:05 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 03, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
Can you go to a different center if you want to? I didn't realize you had an assigned one.

I don't know about Madrid, but in here they are assigned by area. I'm not sure if you are supposed to be able to go to another one, but I do it nevertheless (my district got split in two a decade or so ago and I keep going to the same doctor and nobody has ever given me trouble about it).

Sounds good. I'd imagine it works if you're traveling or something. That's why I asked. I always assumed you could just go wherever you want since it all comes from the same pot anyway.
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Martinus

Quote from: DGuller on November 03, 2009, 03:01:54 PM
Can you please say anything bad about the Spanish health care system, anything at all?

It's staffed by Spaniards? :P

Iormlund

Quote from: DGuller on November 03, 2009, 03:01:54 PM
Can you please say anything bad about the Spanish health care system, anything at all?

Of course. There are a thousand things wrong with it. Especially since Spain has received 10 million immigrants in a decade, plus has an increasingly old population.
The basic problem is a lack of doctors, both GPs and specialists. And nurses - their workload at the surgery recovery ward was shameful.
This lack of personnel increases inefficiency in itself (multi-million dollar machines idle because there is no radiologist, illnesses that go worse because a few minutes aren't enough to diagnose properly, etc).

Also, and this at least can be fixed, it is terribly inefficient in many areas due in no small measure to an outdated administration (coincidentally my brother works designing computer applications for patient cost management and similar stuff).

As a whole, though, I can't really complain that much. It could be much better. But it could be much, much worse.

DGuller

Quote from: Iormlund on November 03, 2009, 03:53:09 PM
There are a thousand things wrong with it.
[GOPtard] That's all I wanted to hear.  :)  [/GOPtard]

Iormlund

:P
I'm pretty sure I could have had a much nicer experience in the US. After all, I had to wait 2 months for an OR, then shared the room with people that snored, yelled at the nurses if they closed the door (while I was freezing) or were so funny they made me laugh all the time (which is not a good idea when you've just got most of your abdomen stapled back together). :lol:
The surgeons also refused to give me more drugs to help me sleep which sucked big time, although that was about reluctance to give addictive stuff rather than cheapness.

On the other hand had I been one of the 30 or whatever million Americans without insurance (unlikely given my job I guess) I would ow over a hundred thousand dollars in medical bills, so ...