Exact Number of Alternate Universes = 10^10^16 - How many zeros is that?

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http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2009-10/physicists-calculate-exact-number-alternate-universes


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Physicists Calculate Exact Number of Alternate Universes
There are 10^10^16 of them (but #1,000,443,163,313,125,343,132 is the evil one)
By Stuart Fox Posted 10.16.2009 at 10:28 am




For some time, physicists have theorized about the existence of alternate universes. In fact, some models of physics require multiple universes, to explain some rarely observed phenomena. But, other than obvious ones like The Man In The High Castle Universe where the Nazis won WWII, the Earth-295 Age of Apocalypse Universe, and the Terran Empire "Mirror Mirror" Universe, just how many alternate universes are there? Well, some Stanford University physicists have answered that question, and the magic number is: 10^10^16 other realities.

The physicists, Andrei Linde and Vitaly Vanchurin, calculated the number by first going all the way back to the Big Bang. Linde and Vanchurin posit that the stellar organization and physics of our universe resulted from small perturbations in the otherwise uniform mass of matter and energy that existed milliseconds after the Big Bang. So, the number of possible variations of those perturbations represents the upper limit of possible alternate universes, or about 10^10^10^7 possible alternate universes.

However, because of the physical limits of the human brain, no individual could perceive more than 10^10^16 realities different from our own. And since the perspective of the viewer factors into the calculations (like time dilation in relativity), that's the number of possible alternate universes.

Of course, that's the total number of POSSIBLE alternate universes. The number of ACTUAL alternative universes actually depends on depends on how many boxes the Professor made.
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DGuller

It's about 10^16 zeros.  :smarty:

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Josquius

So...this is every particle there has ever been moving in every conceievable way it could have moved through all time and every combination thereupon?
Cool if they've actually calculated that :blink:
I mean...even a single particle throughout history could have created a number of universes infinite to our understanding let alone that infinity times another infinity if we're counting two particles....and so on.
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Liep

Quote from: Tyr on October 19, 2009, 05:33:40 PM
So...this is every particle there has ever been moving in every conceievable way it could have moved through all time and every combination thereupon?
Cool if they've actually calculated that :blink:
I mean...even a single particle throughout history could have created a number of universes infinite to our understanding let alone that infinity times another infinity if we're counting two particles....and so on.
He did say a lot of zeros.
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QuoteHowever, because of the physical limits of the human brain, no individual could perceive more than 10^10^16 realities different from our own. And since the perspective of the viewer factors into the calculations (like time dilation in relativity), that's the number of possible alternate universes.

This doesn't make any sense.
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Agelastus

Quote from: Tyr on October 19, 2009, 05:33:40 PM
So...this is every particle there has ever been moving in every conceievable way it could have moved through all time and every combination thereupon?
Cool if they've actually calculated that :blink:
I mean...even a single particle throughout history could have created a number of universes infinite to our understanding let alone that infinity times another infinity if we're counting two particles....and so on.

It does sound a bit extreme when you put it that way.  :blink:

As a layman, I don't see how that is possible.
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Wicked awesome.

My favorite alternate universe so far is this one.

www.amazon.com/Britannias-Fist-Civil.../dp/1574888234
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Josephus

Quote from: Warspite on October 19, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
QuoteHowever, because of the physical limits of the human brain, no individual could perceive more than 10^10^16 realities different from our own. And since the perspective of the viewer factors into the calculations (like time dilation in relativity), that's the number of possible alternate universes.

This doesn't make any sense.

No, but it does in another universe.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:33:51 PM
Wicked awesome.

My favorite alternate universe so far is this one.

www.amazon.com/Britannias-Fist-Civil.../dp/1574888234

You suck.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 19, 2009, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:33:51 PM
Wicked awesome.

My favorite alternate universe so far is this one.

www.amazon.com/Britannias-Fist-Civil.../dp/1574888234

You suck.
Shockingly, I disagree. :smarty:
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Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
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Jet: I see.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 19, 2009, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:33:51 PM
Wicked awesome.

My favorite alternate universe so far is this one.

www.amazon.com/Britannias-Fist-Civil.../dp/1574888234

You suck.
Shockingly, I disagree. :smarty:

Your opinion was overruled as hearsay.

My original ruling stands. You suck.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Ed Anger on October 19, 2009, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 19, 2009, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:33:51 PM
Wicked awesome.

My favorite alternate universe so far is this one.

www.amazon.com/Britannias-Fist-Civil.../dp/1574888234

You suck.
Shockingly, I disagree. :smarty:

Your opinion was overruled as hearsay.

My original ruling stands. You suck.

You can't judge me, only Neil can judge me. :contract:
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Agelastus

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 19, 2009, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 19, 2009, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 19, 2009, 06:33:51 PM
Wicked awesome.

My favorite alternate universe so far is this one.

www.amazon.com/Britannias-Fist-Civil.../dp/1574888234

You suck.
Shockingly, I disagree. :smarty:

Your opinion was overruled as hearsay.

My original ruling stands. You suck.

You can't judge me, only Neil can judge me. :contract:

I consider 67th Tiger's opinion on the issue of "Britannia's Fist" as more valid than yours.
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