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German federal election 2009

Started by Zanza, September 27, 2009, 11:09:05 AM

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Martim Silva

Quote from: Valmy on September 28, 2009, 02:10:13 PM
Simple explanations from a simplistic mind.

The love of complex instruments is what created the Derivatives Market (and don't get me started on CFDs). I belive that often the simpler answers are best. As classifying those scams as such and jailing their proponents without giving them the chance to muddle the issue with their soft words.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Martim Silva on September 28, 2009, 02:16:23 PM
The love of complex instruments is what created the Derivatives Market (and don't get me started on CFDs). I belive that often the simpler answers are best. As classifying those scams as such and jailing their proponents without giving them the chance to muddle the issue with their soft words.
Usually when people say scam they mean someone was lied to, cheated.

Syt

Overview from Austrian website derstandard.at:



Big map in the middle: results by state. Top right: results 2005. Right middle: movements of voters between parties.
Bottom: result by certain groups (from left to right: first time voters, workers, self employed, pensioners, unemployed)
Top left: Result 2009
Mid left: comparison west/east
Bottom left: results since 1949
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Syt

Btw, I think the drop in voter turnout (77.7 => 70.8 percent) is quite significant.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Valmy

Quote from: Syt on September 28, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Btw, I think the drop in voter turnout (77.7 => 70.8 percent) is quite significant.

Disillusionment? 

Of course here in the USA we could only dream of someday having 70.8 % turnout.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

Quote from: Valmy on September 28, 2009, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 28, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Btw, I think the drop in voter turnout (77.7 => 70.8 percent) is quite significant.

Disillusionment? 

I'd think so. It's increasing feeling in Germany (and, for what it's worth in Austria), that politicians are aloft, disconnected from (and uninterested in) the common people. Kind of like an ivory tower of politics that's too abstract for the average Joe on the street to understand or care about. Which is why populist parties (both left and right) with more tangible goals or slogans in easily understandable language are attracting voters, even if they more often just say "what is wrong" than actually offer a solution.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Jaron

Quote from: Valmy on September 28, 2009, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 28, 2009, 02:28:51 PM
Btw, I think the drop in voter turnout (77.7 => 70.8 percent) is quite significant.

Disillusionment? 

Of course here in the USA we could only dream of someday having 70.8 % turnout.

We had a pretty close number in 2008. :huh:  Hell, even more of the dead came back to vote than usual.
Winner of THE grumbler point.

MadImmortalMan

They still love their Stasi in the old East. That reminds me to add Goodbye Lenin to my Netflix queue.
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citizen k

Quote from: Martim Silva on September 28, 2009, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 28, 2009, 02:10:13 PM
Simple explanations from a simplistic mind.

The love of complex instruments is what created the Derivatives Market (and don't get me started on CFDs). I belive that often the simpler answers are best. As classifying those scams as such and jailing their proponents without giving them the chance to muddle the issue with their soft words.

Here's a simple equation for you, socialism = slavery.

Isn't painting with broad strokes fun?  ;)

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jaron on September 28, 2009, 02:38:59 PM
We had a pretty close number in 2008. :huh:  Hell, even more of the dead came back to vote than usual.
ACORN ACORN ACORN

Valmy

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 28, 2009, 02:45:05 PM
They still love their Stasi in the old East. That reminds me to add Goodbye Lenin to my Netflix queue.

The CDU still won the East.  Just sayin.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sheilbh

Quote from: Syt on September 28, 2009, 02:38:09 PM
I'd think so. It's increasing feeling in Germany (and, for what it's worth in Austria), that politicians are aloft, disconnected from (and uninterested in) the common people. Kind of like an ivory tower of politics that's too abstract for the average Joe on the street to understand or care about. Which is why populist parties (both left and right) with more tangible goals or slogans in easily understandable language are attracting voters, even if they more often just say "what is wrong" than actually offer a solution.
This seems to be global :(
Let's bomb Russia!

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 28, 2009, 02:50:42 PM
This seems to be global :(

Add on top a feeling that "the big parties are all the (corrupt, self serving) same" and "whatever I vote, nothing will change, anyways".
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Ed Anger

Does anybody else get a little turned on too when they show a map of germany in black?  :Embarrass:
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