Roman Polanski arrested in Zürich

[DontSayBanana]

Really? You thought it was appropriate to post that?

Yes.

[Grallon]

On the other hand, what we're not trying to do is claim that the research by an army of psychologists and sociologists depicting psychological maturity as coming later than physical maturity is a myth perpetuated by a repressive government just bent on keepin' a young brothah's pecker down.

Once again I didn't say anything of the sort.  What I've always advocated on this particular issue is to avoid generalizing.  It's obvious maturity varies - I mean only look at our boy Garbon, lecturing everyone from the height of his 22 years. 

My point has always been that some teens can give meaningful consent and that the law should aknowledge this instead of treating all teens like mindless children.



G.

[CountDeMoney]

Who here has reached a 'balanced emotional and physical sexuality' (whatever that means)?   Bhudda?  You?  Brain?  Marty? 

Yo, over here.  I have reached it.

[dps]

On the other hand, what we're not trying to do is claim that the research by an army of psychologists and sociologists depicting psychological maturity as coming later than physical maturity is a myth perpetuated by a repressive government just bent on keepin' a young brothah's pecker down.

Once again I didn't say anything of the sort.  What I've always advocated on this particular issue is to avoid generalizing.  It's obvious maturity varies - I mean only look at our boy Garbon, lecturing everyone from the height of his 22 years. 

My point has always been that some teens can give meaningful consent and that the law should aknowledge this instead of treating all teens like mindless children.



G.

Nice theory, but trying to put it into practice would be a disaster.  In order to prove a charge of child molestation, the state would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the individual child in question was in fact too emotionally immature to be able to give meaningful consent.

[Grallon]

Yo, over here.  I have reached it.

Money my dear, denying yourself or treating your partners like disposables isn't a sign of balance. 



G.

[Grallon]

Nice theory, but trying to put it into practice would be a disaster.  In order to prove a charge of child molestation, the state would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the individual child in question was in fact too emotionally immature to be able to give meaningful consent.

Yes the law must cater to the majority, otherwise it can't be applied.  However what I'm saying is that the 'external authorities' involved in such cases (social services, judges, police, etc) should consider any particular affair without the baggage of pre-frabricated morality.  It is probably too much to hope considering how people are.



G.

[CountDeMoney]

Yo, over here.  I have reached it.

Money my dear, denying yourself or treating your partners like disposables isn't a sign of balance. 

Well, it IS zero-sum.  I'm getting sum = zero.  LOLZ

[dps]

Nice theory, but trying to put it into practice would be a disaster.  In order to prove a charge of child molestation, the state would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the individual child in question was in fact too emotionally immature to be able to give meaningful consent.

Yes the law must cater to the majority, otherwise it can't be applied.  However what I'm saying is that the 'external authorities' involved in such cases (social services, judges, police, etc) should consider any particular affair without the baggage of pre-frabricated morality.  It is probably too much to hope considering how people are.



G.

Well, I don't consider the idea that it's wrong for adults to sexually prey on children "baggage"--and yes, I understand that you're talking about teenagers, not younger kids.  That wasn't my point, however.  My point was that the law has to make it clear what is and isn't legal.  If the law says that the age of consent is 15, then you can have consensual sex with 15-year olds with impunity, but you would know that you'd be subject to arrest if you had sex with a 14-year old.  But if the law said that you could legally have consensual sex with a minor IF in the judgment of the authorities said minor was emotionally mature enough to give meaningful consent, you wouldn't know whether or not it was legally permissable for you to have sex with a 16-year old or not, because your evaluation of their level of maturity might not be the same as that of the authorities.

[Neil]

Who here has reached a 'balanced emotional and physical sexuality' (whatever that means)?   Bhudda?  You?  Brain?  Marty? 

Yo, over here.  I have reached it.

I think your relationship with women speaks volumes about your relationship with your mother.

[Razgovory]

Who here has reached a 'balanced emotional and physical sexuality' (whatever that means)?   



G.
[/quote]

I have.  I've exhausted both.

[citizen k]

I have.  I've exhausted both.

You're too young.

[garbon]

Once again I didn't say anything of the sort.  What I've always advocated on this particular issue is to avoid generalizing.  It's obvious maturity varies - I mean only look at our boy Garbon, lecturing everyone from the height of his 22 years. 
G.

Lecturing everyone? Not agree with your boyfucking equals lecturing everyone? I guess "everyone" is actually a very small group.

Oh and I'm not 22.

[Razgovory]

I also can't quote.

[Razgovory]

I have.  I've exhausted both.

You're too young.

I"m also crazy.

[CountDeMoney]

Who here has reached a 'balanced emotional and physical sexuality' (whatever that means)?   Bhudda?  You?  Brain?  Marty? 

Yo, over here.  I have reached it.

I think your relationship with women speaks volumes about your relationship with your mother.

Fuck you.  My mommy is a saint.