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For first time, a vaccine helps prevent HIV

Started by jimmy olsen, September 24, 2009, 08:35:28 AM

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Agelastus

Quote from: DGuller on September 24, 2009, 02:44:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 24, 2009, 02:22:55 PM
With a sample size of 16,000 virtually any difference is going to be statistically significant.
Not necessarily.  The significance of this difference is actually pretty borderline.  If it were 55 instead of 51 infected on the vaccine, the result wouldn't be significant on 95% confidence level.

Which has been pointed out by commentators over here in the UK. I won't be going "Yeah, the sixties are back" on the strength of this one.
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DGuller

Quote from: Agelastus on September 24, 2009, 05:53:52 PM
Which has been pointed out by commentators over here in the UK. I won't be going "Yeah, the sixties are back" on the strength of this one.
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garbon

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garbon

Quote from: Agelastus on September 24, 2009, 05:53:52 PM
Which has been pointed out by commentators over here in the UK. I won't be going "Yeah, the sixties are back" on the strength of this one.

I don't think any gays want the 60s. Generally we prefer the post-Stonewall era.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Agelastus

Quote from: garbon on September 24, 2009, 07:22:11 PM
I don't think any gays want the 60s. Generally we prefer the post-Stonewall era.

Your point?

I'm not gay; I just want to experience "free love", but was born too late for it... :(
"Come grow old with me
The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

garbon

Quote from: Agelastus on September 24, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
Your point?

I'm not gay; I just want to experience "free love", but was born too late for it... :(

That free love won't be coming back because gays (and I suppose to a lesser but still mentionable amount, blacks) aren't getting HIV.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Josquius

Quote from: Agelastus on September 24, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 24, 2009, 07:22:11 PM
I don't think any gays want the 60s. Generally we prefer the post-Stonewall era.

Your point?

I'm not gay; I just want to experience "free love", but was born too late for it... :(
The free love is still there, no one gives a shit about STDs.
Its just we are teh ugly.
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Ed Anger on September 24, 2009, 12:28:12 PM
Figured they would use Thailand with its high proportion of perverts.

I know a guy that went to Thailand for vacation. He told me he was going to bang prostitutes every day. He was also really kinda creepy; I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn up on the Korean news someday.
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Strix

Quote from: Agelastus on September 24, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
Your point?

I'm not gay; I just want to experience "free love", but was born too late for it... :(

You were born to late and to early.

"free love" is back and alive among teens.
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Agelastus

Quote from: Strix on September 25, 2009, 08:14:48 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 24, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
Your point?

I'm not gay; I just want to experience "free love", but was born too late for it... :(

You were born to late and to early.

"free love" is back and alive among teens.

:cry:
"Come grow old with me
The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

Martinus

Yeah, there is no correlation between free love (or lack thereof) and HIV, really.

For heteros in the West, HIV is still (rightly or wrongly) a bogeyman because in the absence of other vectors of infection, your vanilla vaginal sex is unlikely to lead to a grate rate of transmission (because while a chick can get it from the dude, the dude's chance of getting it from the chick is really small, so the dude would be unlikely to have it in the first place).

On the other hand, among gay men, there is still free love, people just use condoms more.

Agelastus

Quote from: Martinus on September 26, 2009, 03:13:37 AM
Yeah, there is no correlation between free love (or lack thereof) and HIV, really.

For heteros in the West, HIV is still (rightly or wrongly) a bogeyman because in the absence of other vectors of infection, your vanilla vaginal sex is unlikely to lead to a grate rate of transmission (because while a chick can get it from the dude, the dude's chance of getting it from the chick is really small, so the dude would be unlikely to have it in the first place).

On the other hand, among gay men, there is still free love, people just use condoms more.

According to reports, in the UK in 2007 55% of new HIV infections were due to heterosexual contact. Admittedly the ratio of men to women infections by this method is about 2:3, so women are more vulnerable to this method of transmission as you say, but the number of men infected by regular sex does not appear to be minor.

Total diagnoses for that year was 7734 individuals.
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The Best is yet to be
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