Baucus Releases Bill With No Republican Support

[Neil]

If you want to drive a car you have to have insurance. Of course, one can simply choose not to own a car if you want, but that's not really a choice for a vast majority of adults.

Don't be stupid.

[alfred russel]

For those that are opposed to a mandate, can you explain how you want to achieve universal health care coverage? (assuming you care about that)

[Admiral Yi]

For those that are opposed to a mandate, can you explain how you want to achieve universal health care coverage? (assuming you care about that)

I'm not opposed to a mandate, but you could achieve universal coverage by giving it away for free.

[Fate]

What's the point of a compromise bill when only one side will vote for it anyway?

Presumably this compromise will get the DINOs plus one moderate Republicans to vote for cloture. They don't need to vote for the actual bill.

[alfred russel]

For those that are opposed to a mandate, can you explain how you want to achieve universal health care coverage? (assuming you care about that)

I'm not opposed to a mandate, but you could achieve universal coverage by giving it away for free.

Two problems with that:
1) Americans with private insurance lose it, and
2) you still force americans to pay for health care, only it is no longer linked to their own care and is instead through taxes.

[Admiral Yi]

Two problems with that:
1) Americans with private insurance lose it, and
2) you still force americans to pay for health care, only it is no longer linked to their own care and is instead through taxes.

Never mind.  I thought you were asking how it would be possible to achieve without mandates, not how do you want to achieve it without mandates.

[DGuller]

Incidentally, does anybody understand the whole "fining Americans who don't have health care" bit?

It's a retarded way to force people to buy health insurance, and blatanly unconstitutional to boot.  It doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of passing into law.

What's a non-retarded way to force people to buy health insurance?

The silence is deafening.  I guess today's talking points didn't cover that question.

[Strix]

Incidentally, does anybody understand the whole "fining Americans who don't have health care" bit?

It's a retarded way to force people to buy health insurance, and blatanly unconstitutional to boot.  It doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of passing into law.

What's a non-retarded way to force people to buy health insurance?

The silence is deafening.  I guess today's talking points didn't cover that question.

Of course the silence is deafening. If someone knew a non-retarded way to force people to buy health insurance than it wouldn't be an issue. 

[Hansmeister]

Incidentally, does anybody understand the whole "fining Americans who don't have health care" bit?

It's a retarded way to force people to buy health insurance, and blatanly unconstitutional to boot.  It doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of passing into law.

What's a non-retarded way to force people to buy health insurance?

The silence is deafening.  I guess today's talking points didn't cover that question.

I answered your question in the very next post, douhebag.

[Faeelin]

social security is unconstitutional?

If only...

I know.

Oh, so you also believe that social security is unconstitutional. Alrighty then.

[Valmy]

Oh, so you also believe that social security is unconstitutional. Alrighty then.

Hans is still mad about the unconstitutionality of the Louisiana Purchase.  Nowhere does it say the Federal Government can buy land from France in the whole document.

[DisturbedPervert]

Hopefully there will be super cheap bullshit options (first aid kit and bus ticket to Tijuana) for people who don't want insurance.

[Faeelin]

Incidentally, here's a list of Baucus's top ten donors, which is one reason I am skeptical about this bill:

[Valmy]

Incidentally, here's a list of Baucus's top ten donors, which is one reason I am skeptical about this bil:

See?  The insurance and pharmaceuticals companies know his plan is the best for the health of the American people.

[DGuller]

I answered your question in the very next post, douhebag.

Where, I didn't see it.