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Started by BuddhaRhubarb, September 04, 2009, 08:49:45 PM

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:14:04 PM
Well, luckily there weren't any hysterical allegations.  The most hysterical allegations came from those making hysterical allegations of those who were displeased with the event.
I think Jim Greer's statement kicked this all off:
QuoteAs the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology. The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.

While I support educating our children to respect both the office of the American President and the value of community service, I do not support using our children as tools to spread liberal propaganda. The address scheduled for September 8, 2009, does not allow for healthy debate on the President's agenda, but rather obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with our President's initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates.

Public schools can't teach children to speak out in support of the sanctity of human life or traditional marriage. President Obama and the Democrats wouldn't dream of allowing prayer in school. Christmas Parties are now Holiday Parties. But, the Democrats have no problem going against the majority of American people and usurping the rights of parents by sending Pied Piper Obama into the American classroom.

The Democrats have clearly lost the battle to maintain control of the message this summer, so now that school is back in session, President Obama has turned to American's children to spread his liberal lies, indoctrinating American's youngest children before they have a chance to decide for themselves.

As a reader of numerous articles when someone invokes their children in the first line they're going to get hysterical.  Though Greer thought it was actually rather good.
Let's bomb Russia!

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:14:04 PM
Well, luckily there weren't any hysterical allegations.  The most hysterical allegations came from those making hysterical allegations of those who were displeased with the event.

Quote"As the father of four children, I am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology. The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power.
--Jim Greer, RPOF Chairman

QuoteThe fascist in chief is taking his special brand of brainwashing to the classroom. Keep your kids home. I think this man is a threat to our basic unalienable rights. I don't want him indoctrinating my children. Seriously.

Ask your school what their participation is in this leftist indoctrination outrage. Keep politics out of the classroom. Keep communists and their propagandists away from small children.
--Pamela Geller, Newsmax.com

Quote"Our leader will be addressing all schoolchildren on September 8th. ... Will our MSM report on the interesting parallel between our president's plan for our children and the approach of another Great Leader from the past?"
--Mark Finkelstein, Newsbusters.com


Quote"The thing that concerned me most about it was it seemed like a direct channel from the president of the United States into the classroom, to my child," said Brett Curtiss, an engineer from Pearland, Tex., who said he would keep his three children home.
"I don't want our schools turned over to some socialist movement.""

Sure thing, Glenn Beckmeister.  No hysteria there.  :lol:

Only Obama could get the Conservatards so torqued up that he's compared to both Chairman Mao and Hitler.  That's a doubleplay not even Clinton could've pulled off!

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 08, 2009, 05:25:59 PM
As a reader of numerous articles when someone invokes their children in the first line they're going to get hysterical.  Though Greer thought it was actually rather good.

It's all part of the devaluation of Obama by the VRWC.  You devalue the President, you devalue the legitimacy of his Presidency.

The less of a President he seems, the more of a nigger he becomes.  And that's what they want.

Hansmeister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2009, 05:28:49 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:14:04 PM
Well, luckily there weren't any hysterical allegations.  The most hysterical allegations came from those making hysterical allegations of those who were displeased with the event.
Sure thing, Glenn Beckmeister.  No hysteria there.  :lol:

Only Obama could get the Conservatards so torqued up that he's compared to both Chairman Mao and Hitler.  That's a doubleplay not even Clinton could've pulled off!
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

DGuller


CountDeMoney

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

Hey, they're all on your team, GlennBeckmeister.  And I didn't feel like quoting Mark Steyn or Michelle Malkin's vapidity.
Just keep getting more reactionary.  It's fun to watch.

And update your fucking blog.

Razgovory

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2009, 05:28:49 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:14:04 PM
Well, luckily there weren't any hysterical allegations.  The most hysterical allegations came from those making hysterical allegations of those who were displeased with the event.
Sure thing, Glenn Beckmeister.  No hysteria there.  :lol:

Only Obama could get the Conservatards so torqued up that he's compared to both Chairman Mao and Hitler.  That's a doubleplay not even Clinton could've pulled off!
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

We can find Republican congresspeople if you like.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Fireblade

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

And even more serious than the Republicans in Congress impeaching Clinton over a blowjob. :rolleyes:

Hansmeister

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 08, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

Hey, they're all on your team, GlennBeckmeister.  And I didn't feel like quoting Mark Steyn or Michelle Malkin's vapidity.
Just keep getting more reactionary.  It's fun to watch.

And update your fucking blog.
Do you really want to compare the sanity level of "my team" to your team?  At least the GOP doesn't have anyone as nutty as Wright, Obama, or Van Jones.

Hansmeister

Quote from: Fireblade on September 08, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

And even more serious than the Republicans in Congress impeaching Clinton over a blowjob. :rolleyes:

there was this itsy bitsy thing about perjury, but I don't expect you to understand this concept.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:
In 1991 there were hearings after the speech because it had been paid for by Department of Education, not the White House, which I can sort of see though I think it was just playing politics and the GAO confirmed that they didn't think there was anything wrong. 

This is actually a bit weirder. 

In 1991 the President wants to give a speech to schoolkids, no doubt like this one it's been planned for months, and no-one objects.  He gives the speech it is unobjectionable.  The next day the Washington Post publishes an article with this line 'The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props' and Democrats basically say Bush was wasting Department of Education funds and using schools and that state money to produce a political ad, effectively.  They put on an investigation and try and make some hay out of it.  It's excessive and it's politically manipulative but I don't think it's hysterical, it's the sort of thing that I think that would make the Bush White House rightly think that they just can't get a break.  Of course, no White House can because everything will be turned to political advantage by you or your opponents.  It's unfortunate and what the Democrats did was, frankly, ridiculous and I think almost an insult.

In 2009 the President wants to give a speech to schoolkids.  The date is set months in advance and no-one complains.  Until, that is, Jim Greer of the Florida Republican Party issues a statement.  He's the chairman, a moderate and a close ally of Charlie Crist.  This is before the speech has been given, I've quoted the entire statement up there, but here's my best bits:
QuoteI am absolutely appalled that taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology...The address scheduled for September 8, 2009, does not allow for healthy debate on the President's agenda, but rather obligates the youngest children in our public school system to agree with our President's initiatives or be ostracized by their teachers and classmates...But, the Democrats have no problem going against the majority of American people and usurping the rights of parents by sending Pied Piper Obama into the American classroom...President Obama has turned to American's children to spread his liberal lies, indoctrinating American's youngest children before they have a chance to decide for themselves.
If you're looking for high profile people then here Glenn Beck on the subject - I dislike Media Matters too but I think the clip's good:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200909020011
Even Tim Pawlenty said he was concerned.  Though he could just have been trying to develop some form of character.

All of this is before the speech is given, or a draft made available.  After the speech Jim Greer says he thinks that it was his highlighting of the speech that made Obama tone it down.  Rush Limbaugh (no nobodies so far, I hope) says that Obama's team forced him to tone it down - remember he's from the Saul Allinsky school:
QuoteHe said, "You gotta go out and take responsibilities for yourselves."  That was the theme of his speech -- which was not the original intent of the speech, by the way. The original intent of the speech was, you know, a "Dear Leader" kind of thing, right out of the pages of the potbellied dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong-il.  That's what it was going to be.  You gotta think about me all the time, you gotta write a letter to yourself about how you can help me, and they finally said, "No, you can't do that."

So they go out with this thing today which sets up health care tomorrow night.  The theme of his speech today was take personal responsibility, which none of his policies encourage.  None of his policies even allow it.  You want to take care of your own health care?  No way!  You're going to get a government-mandated health care plan regardless, and you can't do anything about it.  You can't assume responsibility for your own health care. You can't assume responsibility for your own job.  You can't assume responsibility for your own car. "No, no, no! You're too stupid to do any of that."  So he goes out and tells these kids, "You've gotta take personal responsibility"?  He never even does that in his own life.

So what the Democrats did in 1991 was political, silly, a waste of money and just wrong but I don't believe it was hysterical.  Hysteria means an uncontrollable excess of emotion, especially fear.  I think the right sounds hysterical here.  I think the Democrats machivellianly opened hearings on Bush I after an unobjectionable speech on grounds of accountancy; the Republicans hysterically worried about the indoctrination of their children into Obama's socialist program, though he'd initially wanted it to start or develop his cult of the leader and talk about the census and the environment, all of which puts the Republic in danger.
Let's bomb Russia!

Fireblade

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: Fireblade on September 08, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

And even more serious than the Republicans in Congress impeaching Clinton over a blowjob. :rolleyes:

there was this itsy bitsy thing about perjury, but I don't expect you to understand this concept.

Yes, yes, lying under oath. The difference being, of course, the GHWB probably committed actual crimes (and GWB sure as shit did), while Clinton's only crime was getting head from a fat chick.

Lets face facts here, when it comes to going into histrionic fits, you right wing pieces of shit have it perfected to a science. I almost wish Obama would set up death camps for you fucks.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 06:07:56 PM
Do you really want to compare the sanity level of "my team" to your team?  At least the GOP doesn't have anyone as nutty as Wright, Obama, or Van Jones.

Nigga, puhleeze...you didn't even know Van Jones existed until this month.

And yeah, I got two words for "yours are nuttier than ours": Sarah. Palin.

Razgovory

Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: Fireblade on September 08, 2009, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on September 08, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
Wow, a bunch of fucking nobodies that no one had ever heard about whining about Obama, that's surely far more serious than the Democrats in Congress hysterically launching into hearings against GHWB in 91.  Yep, you win that argument there.  :rolleyes:

And even more serious than the Republicans in Congress impeaching Clinton over a blowjob. :rolleyes:

there was this itsy bitsy thing about perjury, but I don't expect you to understand this concept.

I thought perjury was in with you guys after the Libby thing.  Or is just if you are convicted of it?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Fireblade on September 08, 2009, 06:19:16 PM
Yes, yes, lying under oath.

It's far worse than lying to the American people directly.  You know, like, "read my lips: no new taxes", and "arms were not traded for hostages".  That sort of thing.