CDC to recomend circumcision

[Malthus]

that there are proven health benefits (you know, the ones mentined by the CDC)?

You mean the off chance that my sons might have unprotected sex with a woman in Africa...

Hey, you want them to be well-travelled and have lots of new experiences, right? 

[Martinus]

I don't know who is more of a whackjob - him or someone mutilating their children's genitals in observance of some bizarre tribal moon-god ritual that offers no proven health benefits whatsoever.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that circumcision supporters should be forcibly sterilized, but I think we should seriously consider whether they are fit to have their parental rights left intact.

Were you aware that most north american circumcisions are not driven by any religious drive, and that there are proven health benefits (you know, the ones mentined by the CDC)?  That the legitimate debate over circumcision is whetehr or not those health benefits are "worth it"?

I am perfectly aware of that. I am also aware that now this is a cultural phenomenon, which started from religious drive of the pilgrims, but when that no longer cut it (pun intended), a bogus justification of "preventing masturbation" was made up, and when this one became unacceptable, various post-factum "medical" justifications were similarly invented.

The fact is - as the only medical practitioner who posted in this thread pointed out - it offers no proven benefits vis-a-vis STD transmission in the Western society. As to hygienic concerns, well again, in the West, anyone with an access to soap and running water can achieve these benefits without having to resort to genital mutilation of minors.

[Malthus]

I am perfectly aware of that. I am also aware that now this is a cultural phenomenon, which started from religious drive of the pilgrims, but when that no longer cut it (pun intended), a bogus justification of "preventing masturbation" was made up, and when this one became unacceptable, various post-factum "medical" justifications were similarly invented.

The fact is - as the only medical practitioner who posted in this thread pointed out - it offers no proven benefits vis-a-vis STD transmission in the Western society. As to hygienic concerns, well again, in the West, anyone with an access to soap and running water can achieve these benefits without having to resort to genital mutilation of minors.

It originated with the Pilgrims now? 

In point of fact ... it was never a religious matter in N. America, exept for Jews & Muslims.

[Martinus]

that offers no proven health benefits whatsoever.

How long till Obama reforms the US health care and euthanizes you?

[garbon]

Men/boys are nasty. It stinks. Cut it off.

[Barrister]

Were you aware that most north american circumcisions are not driven by any religious drive, and that there are proven health benefits (you know, the ones mentined by the CDC)?  That the legitimate debate over circumcision is whetehr or not those health benefits are "worth it"?

I am perfectly aware of that. I am also aware that now this is a cultural phenomenon, which started from religious drive of the pilgrims, but when that no longer cut it (pun intended), a bogus justification of "preventing masturbation" was made up, and when this one became unacceptable, various post-factum "medical" justifications were similarly invented.

The fact is - as the only medical practitioner who posted in this thread pointed out - it offers no proven benefits vis-a-vis STD transmission in the Western society. As to hygienic concerns, well again, in the West, anyone with an access to soap and running water can achieve these benefits without having to resort to genital mutilation of minors.

I think you are somewhat misinformed on this one.  Which is fair enough, as I would similarily have absolutely no idea about the practices of circumcision in Poland.

The Pilgrims had nothing to do with it.  It started in around 1900, and apparently rates shot up post WWII so that the large majority of boys were circumcised.  Rates have declined somewhat, but I think the majority of male infants are still circumcised.

I believe you're right that it's as much cultural as it is hygenie, but religion has little to nothing to do with it (except for the Jews of course).

[alfred russel]

Hmmm, teach my boys about condom use or get them chopped.  Tough call.

Are you going to include a lesson that condoms suck, or do they have to figure it out on their own?

Granted, not as much as syphilis, but they do suck.

[Jaron]

I recommend everyone try it at least once before you start bashing it as painful or unnecessary.

[merithyn]

What a wackjob. 

I don't know that he's much of a whack job when you consider that the primary reason most non-Jewish men have their boys circumsized in the U.S. is for purely aesthetic reasons. They want their kids to look like everyone else in the locker room. It is, in truth, the first cosmetic surgery a boy will have.

[crazy canuck]

Hmmm, teach my boys about condom use or get them chopped.  Tough call.

Are you going to include a lesson that condoms suck, or do they have to figure it out on their own?

Granted, not as much as syphilis, but they do suck.

Gotta wear a condom anyway, might as well have it wrapped around the full deal.

[jimmy olsen]

I don't know who is more of a whackjob - him or someone mutilating their children's genitals in observance of some bizarre tribal moon-god ritual that offers no proven health benefits whatsoever.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that circumcision supporters should be forcibly sterilized, but I think we should seriously consider whether they are fit to have their parental rights left intact.

Were you aware that most north american circumcisions are not driven by any religious drive, and that there are proven health benefits (you know, the ones mentined by the CDC)?  That the legitimate debate over circumcision is whetehr or not those health benefits are "worth it"?

as the only medical practitioner who posted in this thread pointed out

Who's this?

[CountDeMoney]

Euros can have all the dick cheese they want.

[Maximus]

Over here we have this stuff called soap. We take showers and stuff.

[garbon]

Euros can have all the dick cheese they want.

And natural body odors...

[Grey Fox]

You guys are exagering what not being circumcize does here.