Roving Presidents apparently alter a location's legal status.

[DontSayBanana]

Bizarre. It would make more sense to just claim the presence of the POTUS makes it federal jurisdiction and a national security issue.

[Tonitrus]

Bizarre. It would make more sense to just claim the presence of the POTUS makes it federal jurisdiction and a national security issue.

That's exactly what the SS rep said.  Though I presume they limited it to the "venue" (i.e. inside the building). 

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

This seems a strange time to reduce the protection extended to former presidents, probably seemed reasonable when the decision was taken of course.

The decision was based on the recent trend of former Presidents getting book deals, speaking engagements, and whatnot after they leave office.  These activities generate lots of personal income for them as a result of having been President, as well as increases the demands of the Secret Service to protect them.  Therefore, it was decided that former Presidents should have to pay for their own security 10 years after they leave office.

[DontSayBanana]

That's exactly what the SS rep said.  Though I presume they limited it to the "venue" (i.e. inside the building). 

Jurisdiction for federal officers is not the same as transposing federal law- the federal officers wouldn't necessarily be acting on specific ordinances, but following their departmental rules without hindrance from the local level.

[DGuller]

What if some of those nuts carried mortars that had enough range to go from state to federal territory?

[DontSayBanana]

What if some of those nuts carried mortars that had enough range to go from state to federal territory?

Another reason I'm suggesting jurisdiction should be following the operation, not be a transposition of federal law to a fixed site.

[Josquius]

I also wonder if the President's Federal Aura deals damage per tick to all enemies of the state in a 30 yard radius.

It is a bit like that isn't it?

Makes you wish that laws across the US were a bit more diverse. Say...Someone is fucking a sheep in the woods of a state where such is fine but then the president walks by and...he's off to jail.

What if some of those nuts carried mortars that had enough range to go from state to federal territory?

I wonder how that would work- if you shot someone from over state (or national...) lines which law would count?
Logically to me it seems you would only get unlawful discharge on your side...the bullet on the other side wasn't fired by you there so things should be good.... Lawyers probally know this isn't the case though

[Warspite]

IIRC, Obama will have lifetime protection. Some SS official said so back in September.

Schutzstaffel?

[DGuller]

IIRC, Obama will have lifetime protection. Some SS official said so back in September.

Schutzstaffel?

Social Security, obviously.

[DontSayBanana]

What if some of those nuts carried mortars that had enough range to go from state to federal territory?

I wonder how that would work- if you shot someone from over state (or national...) lines which law would count?
Logically to me it seems you would only get unlawful discharge on your side...the bullet on the other side wasn't fired by you there so things should be good.... Lawyers probally know this isn't the case though

Real expertise would be appreciated, but IIRC, in case of such an incident, feds and state authorities come to an agreement on who has jurisdiction, and if the crime is completed (the shell impacting) within federal jurisdiction, it'd almost certainly go to the feds.

[Razgovory]

IIRC, Obama will have lifetime protection. Some SS official said so back in September.

Schutzstaffel?

Social Security, obviously.

The Real Nazis.

[MadImmortalMan]

What if some of those nuts carried mortars that had enough range to go from state to federal territory?

They are carrying weapons that are legal to carry within the jurisdiction they are carrying them. I suspect there would be plenty of reason to intervene if people started toting around mortars or RPGs because that would not be kosher whether the President was nearby or not.

[grumbler]

It is a bit like that isn't it?

Makes you wish that laws across the US were a bit more diverse. Say...Someone is fucking a sheep in the woods of a state where such is fine but then the president walks by and...he's off to jail.

Except that those kinds of laws are not Federal laws, but state laws.  Federal crimes are pretty specific.

I wonder how that would work- if you shot someone from over state (or national...) lines which law would count?
Logically to me it seems you would only get unlawful discharge on your side...the bullet on the other side wasn't fired by you there so things should be good.... Lawyers probally know this isn't the case though

Interstate crime comes under Federal jurisdiction.

[PDH]

Ok smart guy, what if the bullets used to shoot at the president from state territory were covered with some sort of ablative-state material...so even after entering the presidential force field they were still state weapons?  Who gets jurisdiction then, huh?

[Barrister]

Ok smart guy, what if the bullets used to shoot at the president from state territory were covered with some sort of ablative-state material...so even after entering the presidential force field they were still state weapons?  Who gets jurisdiction then, huh?

I do.