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Solomon Jones' article about Michael Vick

Started by merithyn, August 15, 2009, 09:10:58 AM

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Quote from: DisturbedPervert on August 15, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
QuoteThe most difficult part of his ordeal, he said, was telling his children what he'd done.

His kids could very well think dog fighting is cool and that he's being unjustly held down by the man.  They probably have a gerbil fighting ring going on right now.

If he's wise he will teach them the real lesson: it's only illegal if you get caught.
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Quote from: DisturbedPervert on August 15, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
QuoteThe most difficult part of his ordeal, he said, was telling his children what he'd done.

His kids could very well think dog fighting is cool and that he's being unjustly held down by the man.  They probably have a gerbil fighting ring going on right now.
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Strix

I think it's a poorly written article.

The crap about Reid forgiving Vick was lame. Reid isn't the owner, he may (or may not) have had input to Vick's signing but ultimately it was not his decision. And as Coach, he'd be crazy to say anything negative about a player who could potentially end up being a key figure on the team if McNabb was to get hurt. So, of course he is going to "forgive" Vick and give him a second chance.

The part about the children is crap as well. Vick didn't care about them when he started fighting dogs. Hell, he might even have had them watch it. So, why would it bother Vick now? It didn't bother him when he decided to create the Ron Mexico personae. It didn't bother him when he purposefully gave a woman an STD. I don't think anything bothers Vick except losing all his cash.

Does he deserve a second chance? He has had a second chance. This is more like a third or fourth chance. And, more importantly, this has nothing to do with Vick as a person but with Vick as an athlete. If I get a DWI I lose my job and I don't get a second chance. Why? A lot of people can do my job just as well as I can. Only about 100 people in the World can play Quarterback in the NFL. So, all this BS about his character and how he wants forgiveness is a bunch of crap.
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Quote from: Strix on August 15, 2009, 12:40:06 PM
The part about the children is crap as well. Vick didn't care about them when he started fighting dogs. Hell, he might even have had them watch it. So, why would it bother Vick now? It didn't bother him when he decided to create the Ron Mexico personae. It didn't bother him when he purposefully gave a woman an STD. I don't think anything bothers Vick except losing all his cash.

WTF is the "Ron Mexico personae"?  Almost all professional athletes, actually all celebrities,  use pseudonyms when checking into hotels.  Is the more to the "Ron Mexico personae" than that?


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Quote from: Neil on August 15, 2009, 09:24:59 AM
Not really.  For one thing, funding a dogfighting operation isn't horrific.  For another, beating your wife is worse than killing a few dozen dogs.

Running an organized crime ring crossing state lines is a fucking federal crime you dumbshit.  Last I checked beating your wife is not running an organized crime ring.  Surely you can see a distinction so freaking simple as that.  If he didn't want to serve a year in federal prison maybe he shouldn't have broken several major federal laws.

Anyway he is going to get a...what is this?  Fourth chance?  And he is only a mediocre loser of a QB, I guess Tom Brady could import crack from Columbia while running an international child pornography distribution ring and get suspended for a game or something.

He was not convicted for being mean to dogs, that is where he is fucked in the court of public opinion.

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Quote from: sbr on August 15, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
WTF is the "Ron Mexico personae"?  Almost all professional athletes, actually all celebrities,  use pseudonyms when checking into hotels.  Is the more to the "Ron Mexico personae" than that?

Ron Mexico was the pseudonym he used for the STD thing. 
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

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Quote from: Valmy on August 15, 2009, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 15, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
WTF is the "Ron Mexico personae"?  Almost all professional athletes, actually all celebrities,  use pseudonyms when checking into hotels.  Is the more to the "Ron Mexico personae" than that?

Ron Mexico was the pseudonym he used for the STD thing.

Yeah I saw that later on Wiki.   :Embarrass:

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It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

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Quote from: Strix on August 15, 2009, 12:40:06 PM
Does he deserve a second chance? He has had a second chance. This is more like a third or fourth chance. And, more importantly, this has nothing to do with Vick as a person but with Vick as an athlete. If I get a DWI I lose my job and I don't get a second chance. Why? A lot of people can do my job just as well as I can. Only about 100 people in the World can play Quarterback in the NFL. So, all this BS about his character and how he wants forgiveness is a bunch of crap.

I missed this the first time through.

100 people?!  I think that number is way to high, based on my years of viewing the NFL there are barely 32 people capable of playing the position in any given year.

Neil

Quote from: Valmy on August 15, 2009, 05:18:47 PM
Running an organized crime ring crossing state lines is a fucking federal crime you dumbshit.  Last I checked beating your wife is not running an organized crime ring.  Surely you can see a distinction so freaking simple as that.  If he didn't want to serve a year in federal prison maybe he shouldn't have broken several major federal laws.
Criminality != immorality.

Besides, dogfighting is a victimless crime.  Quit being such a cunt.
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