Jihadis thrice attacked Pakistan nuclear sites

Started by KRonn, August 11, 2009, 02:31:39 PM

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KRonn

Interesting... and kind of concerning.   

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/world/pakistan/Jihadis-thrice-attacked-Pakistan-nuclear-sites/articleshow/4879235.cms

[size]Jihadis thrice attacked Pakistan nuclear sites

WASHINGTON: Pakistan's nuclear facilities have already been attacked at least thrice by its home-grown extremists and terrorists in little reported incidents over the last two years, even as the world remains divided over the safety and security of the nuclear weapons in the troubled country, according to western analysts.

The incidents, tracked by Shaun Gregory, a professor at Bradford University in UK, include an attack on the nuclear missile storage facility at Sargodha on November 1, 2007, an attack on Pakistan's nuclear airbase at Kamra by a suicide bomber on December 10, 2007, and perhaps most significantly the August 20, 2008 attack when Pakistani Taliban suicide bombers blew up several entry points to one of the armament complexes at the Wah cantonment, considered one of Pakistan's main nuclear weapons assembly.

These attacks have occurred even as Pakistan has taken several steps to secure and fortify its nuclear weapons against potential attacks, particularly by the United States and India, says Gregory.

In fact, the attacks have received so little attention that Peter Bergen, the eminent terrorism expert who reviewed Gregory's paper first published in West Point's Counter Terrorism Center Sentinel, said "he (Gregory) points out something that was news to me (and shouldn't have been) which is that a series of attacks on Pakistan's nuclear weapons facilities have already happened."

Pakistan insists that its nuclear weapons are fully secured and there is no chance of them falling into the hands of the extremists or terrorists.

But Gregory, while detailing the steps Islamabad has taken to protect them against Indian and US attacks, asks if the geographical location of Pakistan's principle nuclear weapons infrastructure, which is mainly in areas dominated by al-Qaida and Taliban, makes it more vulnerable to internal attacks.

Gregory points out that when Pakistan was developing its nuclear weapons infrastructure in the 1970s and 1980s, its
principal concern was the risk that India would overrun its nuclear weapons facilities in an armored offensive if the
facilities were placed close to the long Pakistan-India border.

As a result, Pakistan, with a few exceptions, chose to locate much of its nuclear weapons infrastructure to the
north and west of the country and to the region around Islamabad and Rawalpindi - sites such as Wah, Fatehjang,
Golra Sharif, Kahuta, Sihala, Isa Khel Charma, Tarwanah, and Taxila. The concern, however, is that most of Pakistan's nuclear sites are close to or even within areas dominated by Pakistani Taliban militants and home to al-Qaida.

Detailing the actions taken by Islamabad to safeguard its nuclear assets from external attacks, Gregory writes that
Pakistan has established a "robust set of measures to assure the security of its nuclear weapons." These have
been based on copying US practices, procedures and technologies, and comprise: a) physical security; b)
personnel reliability programs; c) technical and procedural safeguards; and d) deception and secrecy.

In terms of physical security, Pakistan operates a layered concept of concentric tiers of armed forces personnel to
guard nuclear weapons facilities, the use of physical barriers and intrusion detectors to secure nuclear weapons
facilities, the physical separation of warhead cores from their detonation components, and the storage of the
components in protected underground sites.

With respect to personnel reliability, Gregory says the Pakistan Army conducts a tight selection process drawing
almost exclusively on officers from Punjab Province who are considered to have fewer links with religious extremism (now increasingly a questionable premise) or with the Pashtun areas of Pakistan from which groups such as the Pakistani Taliban mainly garner their support.

Pakistan operates an analog to the US Personnel Reliability Program (PRP) that screens individuals for Islamist sympathies, personality problems, drug use, inappropriate external affiliations, and sexual deviancy.

The army uses staff rotation and also operates a "two-person" rule under which no action, decision, or
activity involving a nuclear weapon can be undertaken by fewer than two persons. In total, between 8,000 and 10,000 individuals from the SPD's security division and from Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI), Military Intelligence and Intelligence Bureau agencies are involved in the security clearance and monitoring of those with nuclear weapons duties.

Gregory says despite formal command authority structures that cede a role to Pakistan's civilian leadership, in
practice the Pakistan Army has complete control over the country's nuclear weapons.

It imposes its executive authority over the weapons through the use of an authenticating code system down through the command chains that is deployment sites, aspects of the nuclear command and control arrangements, and many aspects of the arrangements for nuclear safety and security (such as the numbers of those removed under personnel reliability programs, the reasons for their removal, and how often authenticating and enabling (PAL-type) codes are changed).

In addition, Pakistan uses deception - such as dummy missiles - to complicate the calculus of adversaries and is
likely to have extended this practice to its nuclear weapons infrastructure.

Taken together, these measures provide confidence that the Pakistan Army can fully protect its nuclear weapons against the internal terrorist threat, against its main adversary India, and against the suggestion that its nuclear weapons could be either spirited out of the country by a third party (posited to be the United States) or destroyed in the event of a deteriorating situation or a state collapse in Pakistan, says Gregory.

However, at another point, he says "despite these elaborate safeguards, empirical evidence points to a clear
set of weaknesses and vulnerabilities in Pakistan's nuclear safety and security arrangements."

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Berkut

Well, as long as they are screening for sexual deviancy, it should be ok.

Radical Islamists with nukes is pretty scary, but Marty with nukes would be terrifying.
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Quote from: Berkut on August 11, 2009, 02:54:26 PM
Well, as long as they are screening for sexual deviancy, it should be ok.

Radical Islamists with nukes is pretty scary, but Marty with nukes would be terrifying.

That would be pretty terrifying.  A moody, shallow and hateful man with nukes.
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The incidents, tracked by Shaun Gregory, a professor at Bradford University in UK, include an attack on the nuclear missile storage facility at Sargodha on November 1, 2007, an attack on Pakistan's nuclear airbase at Kamra by a suicide bomber on December 10, 2007, and perhaps most significantly the August 20, 2008 attack when Pakistani Taliban suicide bombers blew up several entry points to one of the armament complexes at the Wah cantonment, considered one of Pakistan's main nuclear weapons assembly.

Christ! If they'd followed up on that they might have been successful.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 04:43:29 PM
Christ! If they'd followed up on that they might have been successful.

I suspect they tried and were thwarted by the Pakistani military.
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KRonn

This was also on the US news tonight, with some quite concerned people discussing it.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: KRonn on August 11, 2009, 07:41:52 PM
This was also on the US news tonight, with some quite concerned people discussing it.
What station? I'd like to look that up and find out what they said.
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Martinus

Quote from: Razgovory on August 11, 2009, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 11, 2009, 02:54:26 PM
Well, as long as they are screening for sexual deviancy, it should be ok.

Radical Islamists with nukes is pretty scary, but Marty with nukes would be terrifying.

That would be pretty terrifying.  A moody, shallow and hateful man with nukes.

I love you too, Raz. :D

Martinus

Quote from: Berkut on August 11, 2009, 02:54:26 PM
Well, as long as they are screening for sexual deviancy, it should be ok.

Radical Islamists with nukes is pretty scary, but Marty with nukes would be terrifying.

:P

That being said, I've been watching the "Tudors" recently and I'm fairly convinced I would have acted similarly to Henry (only with guys instead of chicks). Perhaps it is a good thing I do not have the power to order beheadings. :whistle:

KRonn

Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 08:21:16 PM
Quote from: KRonn on August 11, 2009, 07:41:52 PM
This was also on the US news tonight, with some quite concerned people discussing it.
What station? I'd like to look that up and find out what they said.
A couple of places, most likely CNN and FOX.

KRonn

The attacks on Pakistani nuclear sites, I would think would be enough to elicit a Pakistani military response. But it seems that other factors pushed the Pakistani govt over the edge to take on Taliban and AQ. The article below, and others I've seen recently, seem to show the Pakistanis pretty heavily taking on the insurgents. There had been agreements and understandings with the Taliban/AQ, but those were violated, such as moving into Swat valley. So it would seem to me that the insurgents really over played their hand, but I can't figure that they wouldn't have realized that possibility before they started taking risks of pushing the Pakistani govt into action? Also, this coincides with tribes in the area finally having had enough with the insurgents, and that helped give impetus to the govt, but really, the move into the Swat valley really seemed a bad idea for the Taliban/AQ. What were they thinking, or not? Possibly they felt that the time was right to push for a lot more?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32400985/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

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