A glance at HoI3

[Syt]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432431

What has happened so far?

- Several problems with production AI has been dealt with.
- Most of the Bugs with the supply system, as well as some design flaws has been fixed.
- Dozens of reported problems with the Military AI has been tracked down and adressed.
and lots more...

If nothing major goes wrong, we're hoping to have a 1.3 out before november.

I like how those sporadic updates on the patch status are markedly shortly than all those dev diaries that P'dox spent their development time on.

[Syt]

It appears they took out the option to assume military control of allies? People on the forums say there's no way to coordinate with their allies, and sending Exped.Forces seems to be a role of the dice if the AI accepts them in the first place.

[Ideologue]

I complained about Kwajalein being snatched from nowhere in April 1942 by an apparently nonexistent fleet in another thread a couple of weeks back.

I decided to start over, and see if the fault was somehow mine, or if it was just something I missed.

I can confirm that Kwajalein was being attacked from the twilight zone by an invasion force of eight divisions. In April 1942. With FOUR FLEET CARRIERS AND THE ZUIHO AND A HALF DOZEN BATTLESHIPS AND TWENTY CAs, CLs, AND DDs parked on top of the phantom "invasion force." I scream because I am angry. Of course, I tried every possibility for the location for this invasion force--hell, there's only three. Also, while I know the Japanese weren't too good with radios and electronics in WW2, I'm pretty Goddamn sure they were capable of figuring out which part of a SIXTEEN SQUARE KILOMETER ISLAND is being invaded!

Is there a tech that permits teleportation? Because that's what I was dealing with on Kwajalein. Teleporting Americans. Or Paradox has taken their cues from Marvel fucking Comics, and the Atlanteans are a member of the Allies, disgorging water-breathing infantry into the Kwajalein shallows and terrifying the Japanese bushi with their mastery over five-story-tall creatures of the deep, modified for war. I hear that Namor the Submariner is a Skill 5. Imperious Rex indeed.

While I pack the stupid island full of troops to ward off the combined teleporting/Atlantean force, I decide to use a group a nav bombers to search for any surface ships, just in case there are any. Nope. Fine, I turned them on ground attack. After about, oh, twelve hours of daylight sorties, my 300-plane Betty force has been reduced to a zero-plane nothing force. Well, that's pretty odd, too, considering that there are no Allied airbases remotely within range and apparently no bloody Allied carriers. Or ships. Maybe stargates are an atmospheric hazard for prop planes.

So, basically, I wound up beating an island invasion by busing in additional divisions. I said, fine, whatever, and tried to keep playing.

The U.S. (and perhaps Namor) decide, immediately after the failure of Kwajalein, to try to retake Wake Island... and as soon the Combined Fleet "defeats" the invasion force, Wake Island is struck from "another direction," perhaps again from more-or-less nowhere.

Unfortunately, I cannot confirm this, because the game CTD'd immediately at that point.

Oh, incidentally, Germany never declared war on the USSR and I can't route supply through Siam. What a fantastic game this is.

Fix this in 3.0, or eat me. If I sound belligerent, it's because I am.

How do you make a game worse than Rome?

[Faeelin]

I wish people would be more sympathetic to Paradox. It's unfair to assume anybody there actually played their product, after all.

[MadBurgerMaker]

<losing it>

[garbon]

Your thread no longer exists.

[garbon]

How do you make a game worse than Rome?

On take three.

[Agelastus]

I complained about Kwajalein being snatched from nowhere in April 1942 by an apparently nonexistent fleet in another thread a couple of weeks back.

I decided to start over, and see if the fault was somehow mine, or if it was just something I missed.

I can confirm that Kwajalein was being attacked from the twilight zone by an invasion force of eight divisions. In April 1942. With FOUR FLEET CARRIERS AND THE ZUIHO AND A HALF DOZEN BATTLESHIPS AND TWENTY CAs, CLs, AND DDs parked on top of the phantom "invasion force." I scream because I am angry. Of course, I tried every possibility for the location for this invasion force--hell, there's only three. Also, while I know the Japanese weren't too good with radios and electronics in WW2, I'm pretty Goddamn sure they were capable of figuring out which part of a SIXTEEN SQUARE KILOMETER ISLAND is being invaded!

Is there a tech that permits teleportation? Because that's what I was dealing with on Kwajalein. Teleporting Americans. Or Paradox has taken their cues from Marvel fucking Comics, and the Atlanteans are a member of the Allies, disgorging water-breathing infantry into the Kwajalein shallows and terrifying the Japanese bushi with their mastery over five-story-tall creatures of the deep, modified for war. I hear that Namor the Submariner is a Skill 5. Imperious Rex indeed.

While I pack the stupid island full of troops to ward off the combined teleporting/Atlantean force, I decide to use a group a nav bombers to search for any surface ships, just in case there are any. Nope. Fine, I turned them on ground attack. After about, oh, twelve hours of daylight sorties, my 300-plane Betty force has been reduced to a zero-plane nothing force. Well, that's pretty odd, too, considering that there are no Allied airbases remotely within range and apparently no bloody Allied carriers. Or ships. Maybe stargates are an atmospheric hazard for prop planes.

So, basically, I wound up beating an island invasion by busing in additional divisions. I said, fine, whatever, and tried to keep playing.

The U.S. (and perhaps Namor) decide, immediately after the failure of Kwajalein, to try to retake Wake Island... and as soon the Combined Fleet "defeats" the invasion force, Wake Island is struck from "another direction," perhaps again from more-or-less nowhere.

Unfortunately, I cannot confirm this, because the game CTD'd immediately at that point.

Oh, incidentally, Germany never declared war on the USSR and I can't route supply through Siam. What a fantastic game this is.

Fix this in 3.0, or eat me. If I sound belligerent, it's because I am.

How do you make a game worse than Rome?

Provisionally I'd say that that was an issue with province adjacencies, but that doesn't completely explain the NAV issue.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Your thread no longer exists.

It's in the bug reports section: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434199 

[garbon]

It's in the bug reports section: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434199 

Oh, I don't have access to that forum.

[Habbaku]

General criticism is against forum rules.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Oh, I don't have access to that forum.

I almost said it's a surprisingly slow moving thread, but I actually looked at the rest of them on that first page, and it seems to be one of the more popular ones in that subforum, with 5 replies and 70 views. 

[Faeelin]

General criticism is against forum rules.

Seriously? that's brilliant.

[Ideologue]

Provisionally I'd say that that was an issue with province adjacencies, but that doesn't completely explain the NAV issue.

There's some weird stuff going on with air war in general, with spam air battles sometimes occurring against the AI that rapidly sap strength.  It's not facially retarded to lose 300 planes in (I was possibly wrong about twelve hours) one to five days, but I'd say there's a presumption against it happening in 1942...

As for province adjacenies, I checked the province details, and it sez that the only places Kwajalein borders are the three obvious seazones and that island group.  (I don't really like those island links, but understand, sort of, why P'dox chose to bring them into existence.)

Think of me as Michael Douglas in Falling Down, except maybe less racist.

I thought my Atlantean bit was pretty good.

Anyway, here's some screenshots I took of the debacle.  I suppose I'll duly post 'em on Paradox when I get a chance.







Now, what I forgot to mention is that when I look at the battle screen--apparently there's no way of determining from where the attack is actually coming by that--but one thing that strikes me as damned odd is that I have a level 3 coastal fort in Kwajalein, that seems to not be effecting combat.  Indeed, there is no amphibious penalty for the USAians at all.  Nor is there a shore bombardment bonus for them--only for me.  Gosh, I wish I had the mouse rollover in that screenshot--however, you can see no amphib icon at the top.  Isn't there ordinarily one?

And this just occurred to me but: lol, Admiral Fuckdome.

[Neil]

The whole thing with Namor was great.

Personally, I think all this nonsense is how Paradox overcame the whole 'the AI doesn't launch amphibious assaults' thing.