Alaska and Florida consider bans on bestiality

[KRonn]

Terrible crime, for the animals to be taking advantage of humans!   

[The Nickname Who Was Thursday]

They need to pass laws for the protection of pies. I saw a documentary about a dude taking advantage of (raping) one a few years back.

[garbon]

Terrible crime, for the animals to be taking advantage of humans!   

Well that's the one side I don't get. What happens when the animal is fucking you?

[The Brain]

*shrug*

Any serious argument against beastiality really becomes rather empty from anyone who is not a vegetarian. I don't know about your average cow, but personally I'd much rather be fucked than slaughtered and eaten.

I'll take your word in what animals prefer in terms of sex, but in the civilized world there has always been a legal discrimination between harming/torturing animals and merely killing them.  While we consider killing people worse than torturing them, we do the reverse for animals, and in the civilized world we recognize that such moral distinctions come as readily to omnivores as to vegetarians.

As your nation spends more time exposed to the modern world, future generations of Poles will get these distinctions, even if it is too late for you.  8)

In Sweden bestiality is legal and mistreating (let alone torturing) animals is illegal. You = fail.

[garbon]

In Sweden bestiality is legal and mistreating (let alone torturing) animals is illegal. You = fail.

We're Americans; our failure makes the world go round.

[katmai]

From Today Anchorage Daily News

In honor of the just ended great race, smart-mouths in Juneau are calling Bob Lynn's bestiality bill "the Ididadog bill."

[Razgovory]

*shrug*

Any serious argument against beastiality really becomes rather empty from anyone who is not a vegetarian. I don't know about your average cow, but personally I'd much rather be fucked than slaughtered and eaten.

Hmmm.  Maybe those slippery slope arguments about Gays and bestiality have something to them.

[Syt]

What I would be curious about is the stance on having sex with a dead animal (say, a freshly shot deer or the chiken you plan to have for dinner). Illegal? Immoral?

[grumbler]

What I would be curious about is the stance on having sex with a dead animal (say, a freshly shot deer or the chiken you plan to have for dinner). Illegal? Immoral?

Distasteful.

[jimmy olsen]

  I laughed until I cried.

[Martinus]

*shrug*

Any serious argument against beastiality really becomes rather empty from anyone who is not a vegetarian. I don't know about your average cow, but personally I'd much rather be fucked than slaughtered and eaten.

I'll take your word in what animals prefer in terms of sex, but in the civilized world there has always been a legal discrimination between harming/torturing animals and merely killing them.  While we consider killing people worse than torturing them, we do the reverse for animals, and in the civilized world we recognize that such moral distinctions come as readily to omnivores as to vegetarians.

As your nation spends more time exposed to the modern world, future generations of Poles will get these distinctions, even if it is too late for you.  8)

There is a question of animal cruelty, of course, but again one would assume that existing anti-animal-cruelty laws already deal with it sufficiently, without a need for a separate penalization of bestiality (with, presumedly, harsher penalties). Not to mention, one would assume that not all cases of bestiality would qualify as animal cruelty - for example someone performing fellatio on a dog would not be causing the animal discomfort and pain.

So, no, you have not showed why sexual acts with animals, by their very nature (i.e irrespective of the actual pain caused to animals or not) deserve penalization, whereas skinning, eating and otherwise using them as things does not.

You = fail.

[Martinus]

*shrug*

Any serious argument against beastiality really becomes rather empty from anyone who is not a vegetarian. I don't know about your average cow, but personally I'd much rather be fucked than slaughtered and eaten.

Hmmm.  Maybe those slippery slope arguments about Gays and bestiality have something to them.

Well, I have always held that there is no rational basis for the penalization of bestiality outside of the scope of the animal cruelty laws, or penalization of incest outside of the scope of power relationship abuse laws and anti-pedophilia laws.

I see nothing legally wrong with TheBrain pleasing orally his pet cow or Lord Byron fucking his sister.

[grumbler]

There is a question of animal cruelty, of course, but again one would assume that existing anti-animal-cruelty laws already deal with it sufficiently, without a need for a separate penalization of bestiality (with, presumedly, harsher penalties). Not to mention, one would assume that not all cases of bestiality would qualify as animal cruelty - for example someone performing fellatio on a dog would not be causing the animal discomfort and pain.

Since I didn't make this distinction, I don't have to justify it.  8)

So, no, you have not showed why sexual acts with animals, by their very nature (i.e irrespective of the actual pain caused to animals or not) deserve penalization, whereas skinning, eating and otherwise using them as things does not.

You = fail.

Again, you create a failed strawman due to your inabilityy to read what I actually wrote.

What I wrote was a response to your absurd assertions.  I made no assertions myself about the wisdom of laws regarding bestiality, merely about the fact that distinctions between animal cruelty and the slaughter of animals for food can be made in a non-"rather empty" manner by non-vegetarians.

Again, as your nation becomes more exposed to the civilized world, it will become possible for some Poles (though not, perhaps, you) to engage in intellectual discussions without strawmanning and posting juvenile things like "You = fail."

I look forward to the day.

[lustindarkness]

Again, I have a hard time believing mart is a lawyer.

[grumbler]

Again, I have a hard time believing mart is a lawyer.

:-X