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(Great Power) War in Our Time?

Started by Jacob, January 10, 2026, 08:41:48 PM

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How likely do you think a direct, sustained war between two or more great powers are in your lifetime (definitions in the attached post)?

Almost inevitable at this point (~90% or higher)
3 (15%)
More likely than not, unfortunately (~60% to 90%)
4 (20%)
Fifty-fiftyish (~40% to 60%)
6 (30%)
Not that likely, but there's still a real chance (~10% to 40%)
3 (15%)
There's a low but real chance nonetheless (~10%)
4 (20%)
It's never going to happen. The question itself is kind of preposterous (0%)
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Tonitrus

#15
Quote from: Valmy on January 12, 2026, 01:54:41 PMI guess it depends on if you really consider Russia a Great Power.

They have a sizable nuclear arsenal.  But I suppose that makes one more of Great Danger than a Great Power. 

If a criteria is the ability to project power significantly outside their own country...they're having a hard time.  I wouldn't really count things like shadow fleets smuggling oil and dragging anchors, or other means of widespread sabotage and subterfuge down under shoddy covers.

In terms of economy...dunno.  I think the remarks like "their economy is smaller than Spain!" are usually mostly petty cherrypicking don't at all represent the dangers/dynamics involved.  I expect their oil/natural resource impact is big.  Their manufacturing only seems important internally...almost one might say we have become, in favor of China, on the world stage.

mongers

#16
Quote from: DGuller on January 12, 2026, 03:48:06 PMI voted the most pessimistic option for a couple of reasons.  One reason is that I think wars are like forest fires:  the longer you go without one, the more likely things are to ignite, and once they do, everything that can ignite does ignite at once.  Another reason for pessimism is that erratic nature of the US for the foreseeable future makes miscalculations more likely in the geopolitical game of poker.

This presumes someone or anyone of some significance is trying to calculate Anything.   :P
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

DGuller

Quote from: mongers on January 12, 2026, 06:56:03 PM
Quote from: DGuller on January 12, 2026, 03:48:06 PMI voted the most pessimistic option for a couple of reasons.  One reason is that I think wars are like forest fires:  the longer you go without one, the more likely things are to ignite, and once they do, everything that can ignite does ignite at once.  Another reason for pessimism is that erratic nature of the US for the foreseeable future makes miscalculations more likely in the geopolitical game of poker.

This presumes someone or anyone of some significance is trying to calculate Anything.   :P
It doesn't have to be the US that miscalculates, it could be another great power with regard to how the US would respond.

mongers

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QuoteI voted the most pessimistic option for a couple of reasons.  One reason is that I think wars are like forest fires:  the longer you go without one, the more likely things are to ignite, and once they do, everything that can ignite does ignite at once.  Another reason for pessimism is that erratic nature of the US for the foreseeable future makes miscalculations more likely in the geopolitical game of poker.

This presumes someone or anyone of some significance is trying to calculate Anything.  :P
It doesn't have to be the US that miscalculates, it could be another great power with regard to how the US would respond.

And how do they calculate the incalcuable?

Which is supporting your elaborated point.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"