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Started by Jacob, January 06, 2026, 12:24:03 PM

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garbon

Quote from: HVC on Today at 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 11:55:54 AMI think his dementia is accelerating; of course the replacement is Vance, so it's not great regardless.


Vance is even more of a coward than Trump, with the added trait of being a lick boot. That can be good or bad. He can either he's cowed by the GOP (goodish), or trumps current minders (bad). Again assuming the GOP isn't totally corrupted. Which isn't guaranteed either.

Yeah, he is a wild card.
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The Minsky Moment

I'm glad he said he was using force off the table but it just makes all his prior conduct and statements even less explicable or justifiable, to the extent that is possible.  It's like he is searching for the most Pareto suboptimal solution.
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Jacob

Quote from: garbon on Today at 12:15:34 PM
Quote from: HVC on Today at 12:01:42 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 11:55:54 AMI think his dementia is accelerating; of course the replacement is Vance, so it's not great regardless.


Vance is even more of a coward than Trump, with the added trait of being a lick boot. That can be good or bad. He can either he's cowed by the GOP (goodish), or trumps current minders (bad). Again assuming the GOP isn't totally corrupted. Which isn't guaranteed either.

Yeah, he is a wild card.

The succession mechanics of the MAGA movement is unclear to me. It is possible that the various power brokers already have a post-Trump plan worked out and it'll run like a well-oiled machine. It is also possible that it will be an all out shit-fight.

Valmy

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 12:37:23 PMThe succession mechanics of the MAGA movement is unclear to me. It is possible that the various power brokers already have a post-Trump plan worked out and it'll run like a well-oiled machine. It is also possible that it will be an all out shit-fight.

LOL no.

This is a tail wags the dog scenario. It will be a rush to attract the MAGA base by being as Trumpian as possible.
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garbon

Quote from: Valmy on Today at 12:50:28 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 12:37:23 PMThe succession mechanics of the MAGA movement is unclear to me. It is possible that the various power brokers already have a post-Trump plan worked out and it'll run like a well-oiled machine. It is also possible that it will be an all out shit-fight.

LOL no.

This is a tail wags the dog scenario. It will be a rush to attract the MAGA base by being as Trumpian as possible.

I don't know exactly given we've already seen some daylight appear between what is Trumpian and what is MAGA. That's what has given Trump so many headaches with things like Epstein.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Quote from: Valmy on Today at 12:50:28 PMLOL no.

This is a tail wags the dog scenario. It will be a rush to attract the MAGA base by being as Trumpian as possible.

I mean, I think that that is the most likely scenario also - but, it's not impossible.

My hope is, of course, that in the rush to find the right rhetorical pitch and stab various competitors to climb to the top coincides with enough other headwinds and drop in public sentiment that they damage their hold on power.