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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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Syt

https://apnews.com/live/iran-war-israel-trump-03-17-2026#0000019c-fc83-de2d-addd-ffb3525d0000

QuoteIn a lengthy statement on X, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Kent's letter contained "many false claims" and aggressively disputed his argument that Iran did not pose an imminent threat.

"As President Trump has clearly and explicitly stated, he had strong and compelling evidence that Iran was going to attack the United States first," Leavitt said. "This evidence was compiled from many sources and factors. President Trump would never make the decision to deploy military assets against a foreign adversary in a vacuum."

Leavitt also said the allegation that Trump acted against Iran under the influence from Israel is "both insulting and laughable."

Days after launching the war, Trump administration officials told congressional staff in private briefings that U.S. intelligence did not suggest Iran was preparing to launch a preemptive strike against the U.S.

:unsure:

This administration makes Veep look like West Wing.
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Syt

Also, Trump in 1980, saying he would have gone in with troops to free the hostages in Iran:

https://youtu.be/YKV0-EmtZG8?t=2276
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Zanza

As Trump threatened invasions of two NATO members recently, I guess this rejection will not make a difference. He seemed fixated on ending NATO even before.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Zanza on Today at 01:20:53 PMAs Trump threatened invasions of two NATO members recently, I guess this rejection will not make a difference. He seemed fixated on ending NATO even before.

indeed.

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

I think he's mainly upset that our NATO allies are not US vassals the way the tankie army keeps claiming they are.

Bauer

I thought NATO was a purely defensive alliance anyways.  Which always made Putins hysterics about it irreverent.

Jacob

Buddy told me about a twitter post he saw (rephrasing from memory):

"There'll be no World War III. The numbered release model isn't working for us, we've transitioned to a Seasonal DLC release model."

DGuller

Quote from: Bauer on Today at 02:56:18 PMI thought NATO was a purely defensive alliance anyways.  Which always made Putins hysterics about it irreverent.
Purely defensive alliances can still be very aggressive, if they keep you from regaining the territory that you consider yours.

Tonitrus

Quote from: Syt on Today at 10:32:36 AMhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg4g66r3z40o

QuoteTop US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war, urging Trump to 'reverse course'

His act of political seppuku is actually a boon for everyone all around.



viper37

I tried to find a non shitty source, but it was this or the Dailybeast.



QuoteA French general has said joining President Donald Trump's war is like buying a discounted ticket for the Titanic after it had already hit the iceberg. 

"You can't have an American operation where they're bombing whatever they can, and then below that, the Europeans doing something else," Yakovleff said. "No, no, no, it has to be one sole operation, under a NATO flag. I don't think he's understood that."


He then went further, rejecting the idea that European ships would enforce his blockade while U.S. forces nearby waged a broader war all around them. Instead, he said the U.S. needed to make it crystal clear what it wanted from the conflict.
"The Americans have to put this in writing. Not tweets, not things that change every two minutes," he said.

Yakovleff then claimed that sending ships to help Trump went beyond simply putting those vessels at risk. Instead, he said it opened the door to becoming involved in the conflict's politics.

"It's not a question of military means, the Strait of Hormuz," he said. "It's that he wants to share the political risk... not the military risk."


His words echoed those of German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius, who said, "What does Trump expect from a handful of European frigates that the powerful U.S. Navy cannot do?" the BBC reports. "This is not our war. We have not started it."

He would let us down whenever it suited him," he continued on LCI, before stating, "On the Titanic, it appears the captain wanted to sell tickets off cheaply for the dinner-dance after hitting the iceberg. It's not the moment to be buying a cut-price ticket for the Titanic."


"And the last argument is American: you don't reinforce failure. I learnt that at the U.S. Army War College. You don't reinforce failure, you move on, you find something else."

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That was brutal.   :lol:
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Jacob

I've seen a few quotes from Yakovleff over the years, most of which I've liked.

Is he still active service or retired?

Grey Fox

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 08:41:33 PMI've seen a few quotes from Yakovleff over the years, most of which I've liked.

Is he still active service or retired?

In the French system he's in a kind of semi-retired state. No job, still paid but always available.
Getting ready to make IEDs against American Occupation Forces.

"But I didn't vote for him"; they cried.

Jacob

Sounds like a great job if you can get it  :lol:

Norgy

Zero hour jobs in France? All the Gitanes you can smoke and Boccuse d'Or dishes? Where do I sign up?  :lol: