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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Tamas on March 12, 2026, 07:50:17 PMLifting of the Russian oil sanction until mid April is now official.

This is the most farcical, incompetent war. Not just during my life time, but of the ones I can remember reading about.

No denying the staggering incompetence, but the Russian invasion of Ukraine is worse.
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jimmy olsen

Although...  :hmm:

https://bsky.app/profile/rgoodlaw.bsky.social/post/3mgvp3vqwdc2r

Quote"Top Trump officials acknowledged to lawmakers during recent classified briefings that they did not plan for the possibility of Iran closing the strait in response to strikes."
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 12, 2026, 09:28:13 PMAlthough...  :hmm:

https://bsky.app/profile/rgoodlaw.bsky.social/post/3mgvp3vqwdc2r

Quote"Top Trump officials acknowledged to lawmakers during recent classified briefings that they did not plan for the possibility of Iran closing the strait in response to strikes."

Considering the Iranian government threatened to close the straits after we bombed them last year, you'd have to be a dementia-ridden moron to not expect them to close the straits the next time we bombed then.

So I guess that totally tracks with this President.
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Legbiter

I've seen enough to know how the this war ends. The regime stays in place, Strait of Hormuz is reopened. Whether the regime survives the aftermath, I'd say 50-50. If it survives, it's a meh outcome, Iranians are still screwed, same as they were before the war. If it falls, a regular military dictatorship without the religious zeal would be an improvement compared to now. :hmm: 
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crazy canuck

You place the Trump regime's survival as high as 50/50
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Valmy

Quote from: Legbiter on March 12, 2026, 10:24:29 PMI've seen enough to know how the this war ends. The regime stays in place, Strait of Hormuz is reopened. Whether the regime survives the aftermath, I'd say 50-50. If it survives, it's a meh outcome, Iranians are still screwed, same as they were before the war. If it falls, a regular military dictatorship without the religious zeal would be an improvement compared to now. :hmm: 

I am not sure why you think the regime falling would lead to some peaceful and orderly transition to a military dictatorship.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Legbiter on March 12, 2026, 10:24:29 PMIf it falls, a regular military dictatorship without the religious zeal would be an improvement compared to now. :hmm: 

I seriously doubt the military would be able to supplant the IRGC for control.  And though there could be a IRGC "military dictatorship", odds are they'd always have an ayatollah as at least a figurehead.

Legbiter

Iranian war propaganda. It's AI slop but done in an anime style.  :hmm:

https://x.com/A_M_R_M1/status/2032167472753729570

You are an Iranian in Iran, one of the few with a functioning VPN. You see this, how do you feel?

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Zoupa

Some jihadist group claimed they shot down the refueler in Irak. Drone attack on a French military base in Iraki Kurdistan injured 6 and killed 1 French soldier.

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Jacob

Quote from: Valmy on March 12, 2026, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on March 12, 2026, 10:24:29 PMI've seen enough to know how the this war ends. The regime stays in place, Strait of Hormuz is reopened. Whether the regime survives the aftermath, I'd say 50-50. If it survives, it's a meh outcome, Iranians are still screwed, same as they were before the war. If it falls, a regular military dictatorship without the religious zeal would be an improvement compared to now. :hmm: 

I am not sure why you think the regime falling would lead to some peaceful and orderly transition to a military dictatorship.

To be fair to Legbiter, he didn't say it would be a peaceful and orderly transition.

The thing I'm less clear on is how and when the war ends. Will Trump find a way to TACO out of this?

Tonitrus

Quote from: Legbiter on March 12, 2026, 11:00:27 PMIranian war propaganda. It's AI slop but done in an anime style.  :hmm:

https://x.com/A_M_R_M1/status/2032167472753729570

You are an Iranian in Iran, one of the few with a functioning VPN. You see this, how do you feel?

It is missing American soldiers depicted as titans.

And it might be nice if they actually were launching missiles into Russia too?

Legbiter

Quote from: Tonitrus on March 13, 2026, 12:03:00 AMIt is missing American soldiers depicted as titans.

And it might be nice if they actually were launching missiles into Russia too?

My thought was "at least he died with his wife".
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Tonitrus

Quote from: grumbler on March 12, 2026, 09:12:30 PMKC-135s cannot refuel in the air. I cannot think of any circumstance in which two would be flying so close together as to collide, bar maybe in the landing pattern.

Looks like it may be one of the exceptions, and did involve two of them:

QuoteUPDATE: 6:15 PM EDT –

The Times of Israel has reported that the second aircraft involved was another KC-135. That outlet also says that the KC-135 in question was one that landed at Israel's Ben Gurion Airport earlier in the day after declaring an in-flight emergency. Online flight tracking data shows that tanker is a KC-135RT variant, one of a small subset of KC-135Rs that are themselves capable of being refueled in flight. This, in turn, allows them to make use of tanker support themselves to remain on station longer or to conduct longer-distance missions.

There is also an image out there supposedly of the other 135 that landed with a chunk of its vertical stabilizer missing.

Tonitrus

Quote from: Zoupa on March 12, 2026, 11:32:36 PMSome jihadist group claimed they shot down the refueler in Irak.

Being that the claim came after the CENTCOM announcement....good odds on being bullshit.

grumbler

Quote from: Tonitrus on March 13, 2026, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: grumbler on March 12, 2026, 09:12:30 PMKC-135s cannot refuel in the air. I cannot think of any circumstance in which two would be flying so close together as to collide, bar maybe in the landing pattern.

Looks like it may be one of the exceptions, and did involve two of them:

QuoteUPDATE: 6:15 PM EDT –

The Times of Israel has reported that the second aircraft involved was another KC-135. That outlet also says that the KC-135 in question was one that landed at Israel's Ben Gurion Airport earlier in the day after declaring an in-flight emergency. Online flight tracking data shows that tanker is a KC-135RT variant, one of a small subset of KC-135Rs that are themselves capable of being refueled in flight. This, in turn, allows them to make use of tanker support themselves to remain on station longer or to conduct longer-distance missions.

There is also an image out there supposedly of the other 135 that landed with a chunk of its vertical stabilizer missing.

I was unaware of the development of the KC-135RT (less than ten ever made, apparently) for SecOps missions, for which they sometimes need to be refueled in-air. So I withdraw mt earlier observation about them not having that capability.
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