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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Razgovory on March 07, 2026, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2026, 10:34:45 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 07, 2026, 09:26:20 AMI regret to have clicked that link.

It's best that you understand the American fundamentalist mindset
I mean, you don't.

OK, I'll play along. What don't I understand about American fundamentalists who say that Trump is anointed by God to start a war in Iran in order to bring about the end times that they hope comes?
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Zanza on March 07, 2026, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: Bauer on March 07, 2026, 10:41:42 AMImagine if Trump was a wartime president in WWII.

"Tomorrow we're going to bomb a little place called BERRLIN.  We're going to hit them very hard.  There might not be anything left after...... under serious consideration for total destruction!!"
I doubt that. Trump would have joined the Nazis.

exactly

Syt

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-us-iran-russia/

QuoteHegseth on reports Russia aided Iran: "Anything that shouldn't be happening" will be "confronted strongly"

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that President Trump is "well aware of who's talking to who" amid reports that Russia is providing intelligence to Iran on U.S. movements in the region.

Hegseth told Major Garrett in an interview airing Sunday on "60 Minutes" that the U.S. is "tracking everything" and factoring it into battle plans. "The American people can rest assured their commander-in-chief is well aware of who's talking to who," he said. "And anything that shouldn't be happening, whether it's in public or back-channeled, is being confronted and confronted strongly."

Earlier Friday, multiple sources, including a senior U.S. official, told CBS News that Russia is providing intelligence to Iran regarding U.S. positions in the Middle East during the ongoing joint U.S. and Israeli military operations in Iran. It was the first known indication that Russia is aiding Iran.

Asked if the American people can expect conversations with the Russians to stop their involvement in the conflict, Hegseth said Mr. Trump "has a unique relationship with a lot of world leaders where he can get things done that other presidents, certainly Joe Biden, never could have." He added that "through direct conversations or indirect, through him one-to-one or through his Cabinet, messages definitely can be delivered."

When asked whether Russia's involvement puts U.S. personnel in danger, Hegseth said: "We're putting the other guys in danger, and that's our job. So we're not concerned about that. ... But the only ones that need to be worried right now are Iranians that think they're gonna live."

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, when asked during an appearance on Fox News about Russia providing intelligence to Iran on U.S. assets, said she could not comment on "intelligence reports that are leaked to the press." The intelligence aid from Russia was first reported by The Washington Post.

"Whether or not this happened, frankly, it doesn't really matter, because President Trump and the United States military are absolutely decimating the rogue Iranian terrorist regime," she said.

Later, Leavitt clarified to reporters that she meant Russia sharing intelligence on U.S. assets with Iran "doesn't matter" because "it clearly is not making a difference with respect to the military operations in Iran, because we are completely decimating them."

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OttoVonBismarck

Kegsbreath ain't goin do shit.

He don't like bombing the guys who can bomb back.

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2026, 11:46:25 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 07, 2026, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2026, 10:34:45 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 07, 2026, 09:26:20 AMI regret to have clicked that link.

It's best that you understand the American fundamentalist mindset
I mean, you don't.

OK, I'll play along. What don't I understand about American fundamentalists who say that Trump is anointed by God to start a war in Iran in order to bring about the end times that they hope comes?
You don't even know the difference between Catholics and Evangelicals.  You thought J.D. Vance was an Evangelical.  But I can play the game as well.  When an Arab Muslim says that killing Jews is worship of Allah, do you think that some important theological statement that applies to all Arab Muslims?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

I'm still not sure what I've gotten wrong about fundamentalist cheering on the war in Iran because it's going to bring about the end times.

Maybe stop worrying about your pet issues and take a closer look at what's actually happening in your own country.
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Bauer

What exactly do American evangelist believe in anyways?

Razgovory

#472
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2026, 04:11:45 PMI'm still not sure what I've gotten wrong about fundamentalist cheering on the war in Iran because it's going to bring about the end times.

Maybe stop worrying about your pet issues and take a closer look at what's actually happening in your own country.

You are claiming to understand the "fundamentalists" mindset, but you don't even know who the fundamentalists are.  Do you even know the name of the who person made the statement about Iran and the end times?  What their religion is?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Razgovory on March 07, 2026, 04:47:37 PMDo you even know the name of the who person made the statement about Iran and the end times?  What their religion is?

That would be Jeremiah (49:34-39) and Jewish, respectively.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Zoupa

Quote from: Bauer on March 07, 2026, 04:18:37 PMWhat exactly do American evangelist believe in anyways?

A white ethnostate with unfettered capitalism, mostly.

crazy canuck

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Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 07, 2026, 09:40:06 PMRaz here are some examples that have been widely reported. I chose links that are not behind paywalls for you

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/03/us-israel-iran-war-christian-rhetoric


https://jacobin.com/2026/03/evangelical-christian-zionism-end-times-iran


https://as.cornell.edu/news/end-times-rhetoric-us-military-didnt-infiltrate-was-invited





I heard about the story, I was asking you what the name of the person who said it was and what their religion was.  Do you know?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Zoupa on March 07, 2026, 09:26:59 PM
Quote from: Bauer on March 07, 2026, 04:18:37 PMWhat exactly do American evangelist believe in anyways?

A white ethnostate with unfettered capitalism, mostly.

You know that Martin Luther King Jr was an evangelical, right?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Zoupa


Razgovory

Okay, I'll bite.  What's your source that that Evangelicals want "A white ethnostate with unfettered capitalism, mostly."
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017