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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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QuoteI expect the US to attack within the next 3 weeks or so. There is nothing the Iranians can do to prevent this short of Khamenei resigning.

There are plenty they can do. There are all kinds of ways to pay tribute to the Trump family.
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Bauer

Quote from: Jacob on February 20, 2026, 07:11:46 PMIt's kind of interesting (when putting aside the human and moral implications).

Between the impending action in Iran, the action in Venezuela, and Trump's "Board of Peace" it very much feels like taking internet pundit, over-simplified "why doesn't the US just do X" being taken from internet message boards and acted on in real life.

It'll be very interesting to see how it plays out.

I wouldn't even be surprised if some of Trumps ideas were coming from social media.  Maybe his plan to run Venezuela...

Tonitrus

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5gk15rr70o

QuoteTrump curious why Iran has not 'capitulated', US envoy Witkoff says

In his interview with Fox News, Witkoff said: "I don't want to use the word 'frustrated'... because he [Trump] understands he's got plenty of alternatives, but he's curious as to why they haven't... I don't want to use the word 'capitulated', but why they haven't capitulated."

"Why, under this sort of pressure, with the amount of sea power and naval power that we have over there, why haven't they come to us and said, 'We profess that we don't want a weapon, so here's what we're prepared to do?'"

"And yet it's hard to sort of get them to that place," Trump's envoy added.

I know we didn't need more proof...but he is such a fucking idiot.

The Minsky Moment

Witkoff advising Trump, blind leading the blind without either being able to move their arms or legs.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 03:11:18 PMWitkoff advising Trump, blind leading the blind without either being able to move their arms or legs.

My thinking it is more like Bozo the Clown leading Ronald McDonald.

viper37

Quote from: Bauer on February 21, 2026, 11:37:24 AMI wouldn't even be surprised if some of Trumps ideas were coming from social media.  Maybe his plan to run Venezuela...
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 03:11:18 PMWitkoff advising Trump, blind leading the blind without either being able to move their arms or legs.

My thinking it is more like Bozo the Clown leading Ronald McDonald.

The other boneheaded thing about those comments...it is pretty much signaling to the other side that the entire thing is likely just a giant bluff (which it may very well be).

Bauer

Quote from: viper37 on Today at 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: Bauer on February 21, 2026, 11:37:24 AMI wouldn't even be surprised if some of Trumps ideas were coming from social media.  Maybe his plan to run Venezuela...
Close:  Grok.

Hmm well it is probably more intelligent than regular x users  ;)

The Minsky Moment

"I don't want to use the word 'capitulated', but why they haven't capitulated."

How can anyone take a "diplomat" seriously when he can't even control the words that come out of his mouth.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

grumbler

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 03:11:18 PMWitkoff advising Trump, blind leading the blind without either being able to move their arms or legs.

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