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Started by Jacob, February 16, 2025, 02:00:06 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: mongers on May 04, 2026, 09:34:36 AMWhat tanker captain, sitting on a few hundred thousand barrels of crude oil, responsible for the ship and his crews lives is going to put trust in trump bullshit guiding plan (social media post) ?

Yes, and more to the point why should anybody believe anything the Americans say at this point, whether formally or informally communicated.
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...fighting has restarted.  :(
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Jacob

So far it does not seem like Operation Freedom has resulted in opening the Hormuz.

How long can the US support Operation Freedom? I assume for quite a while, but is it going to create concrete results?

Valmy

Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2026, 01:32:58 PMSo far it does not seem like Operation Freedom has resulted in opening the Hormuz.

How long can the US support Operation Freedom? I assume for quite a while, but is it going to create concrete results?

We are not going to do shit. The strait will stay closed.

Opening it would require doing something unpleasant from the toddlers in charge of our government. So they just...aren't going to do anything.
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2026, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2026, 01:32:58 PMSo far it does not seem like Operation Freedom has resulted in opening the Hormuz.

How long can the US support Operation Freedom? I assume for quite a while, but is it going to create concrete results?

We are not going to do shit. The strait will stay closed.

Opening it would require doing something unpleasant from the toddlers in charge of our government. So they just...aren't going to do anything.
Oh, they'll do plenty: declaring victory, threatening widespread destruction, claiming a cease fire has been reached and the strait is reopened, and of course lots of insider trading.  ;)
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Jacob

Well, they're trying to do something it seems:

Quote'Project Freedom' Aims to Get Thousands of Commercial Ships Safely Through Strait of Hormuz

Iran has blocked safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf for commercial cargo and tanker vessels, trapping thousands inside the gulf and halting the free flow of commerce in the region.

Project Freedom is meant to reopen the strait to commercial vessels, said Secretary of War Pete Hegseth during a briefing today at the Pentagon. It is also independent of Operation Epic Fury, which for now is in a ceasefire.

"President [Donald J.] Trump has directed U.S. Central Command to restart the free flow of commerce through the Strait of Hormuz under the umbrella of Project Freedom," Hegseth said. "Project Freedom is defensive in nature, focused in scope, temporary in duration [and] with one mission: protecting innocent commercial shipping from Iranian aggression."

The secretary said as part of Project Freedom, American forces won't need to enter Iranian waters or airspace; but also, that Iran can no longer be allowed to stymie international commerce.

"Iran ... cannot be allowed to block innocent countries and their goods from an international waterway," Hegseth said. "Iran is the clear aggressor, harassing civilian vessels, threatening mariners from every nation indiscriminately and weaponizing a critical choke point for its own financial benefit."

Already, Hegseth said, two U.S. commercial ships, along with American destroyers, have traversed the strait, proving that Iranian control of the strait is an illusion.

"We know the Iranians are embarrassed by this fact," he said. "They said they control the strait — they do not. So, American ships led the way, commercial and military, shouldering the initial risk from the front — as Americans always do. Right now, hundreds more ships from nations around the world are lining up to transit."

The secretary said Centcom and partner nations are working with ships, shipping companies and insurers to let them know it's safe to move out of the gulf.

"All of these ships from all around the world want to get out of the Iranian trap that they have been stuck inside," he said.

Air Force Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said right now, there are more than 1,500 vessels with about 22,500 mariners trapped inside the gulf.

"Over the past seven weeks, Iran has repeatedly threatened and attacked commercial shipping in the strait in order to effectively cut off commercial traffic and damage the global economy," Caine said. "By obstructing one of the world's most critical maritime checkpoints, a vital transit route for approximately one-fifth of the global oil consumption, Iran is weaponizing the global supply chain."

Now, Caine said, Centcom is executing Project Freedom to open the strait up to commercial traffic.

"Project Freedom is designed to protect commercial shipping and help restore the flow of commerce through the strait and sustain freedom of navigation," he said. "Centcom has established an enhanced security area on the southern side of the strait that is now protected by U.S. land, naval and air assets to help defeat further Iranian aggression against commercial shipping."

Caine said Centcom is using guided missile destroyers and other warships to detect and defeat Iranian threats, including fast boats and one-way attack drones. He said right now, the threat from those fast boats includes rifles and small machine-gun fire.

In the air over the gulf, Caine said, are more than 100 fighters, attack aircraft and other manned and unmanned aircraft, all synchronized by the 82nd Airborne Division.

"[They] are in the air 24 hours a day, providing defensive overwatch for the enhanced security area and its approaches," he said.

Making the gulf safe for commercial vessels, Caine said, are more than 15,000 American service members who are providing very visible overwatch that commercial ships should recognize when they see it.

"Commercial vessels that transit through the area will see, hear and frankly, feel U.S. combat power around them, on the sea, in the skies and on the radio," he said. "And as of this morning, as was mentioned prior, two U.S.-flag merchant vessels have transited, and we anticipate more to transit over the coming days."

https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4477864/project-freedom-aims-to-get-thousands-of-commercial-ships-safely-through-strait/

viper37

Quote from: Valmy on May 05, 2026, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2026, 01:32:58 PMSo far it does not seem like Operation Freedom has resulted in opening the Hormuz.

How long can the US support Operation Freedom? I assume for quite a while, but is it going to create concrete results?

We are not going to do shit. The strait will stay closed.

Opening it would require doing something unpleasant from the toddlers in charge of our government. So they just...aren't going to do anything.
But they did something.  They awarded multi million$ contract to an AI company to help scanning the straight for mines.

Stop talking shit about this administration.   :mad:
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Crazy_Ivan80

read that as: "to help scamming the straight for mines..."

and it still made perfect sense  :(

Valmy

Quote from: Jacob on May 05, 2026, 02:24:47 PMWell, they're trying to do something it seems:



LOL no they are not.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

viper37

I have great news to report!

Iran does not posess kamikaze dolphins.

But Hegseth refuses to confirm is the US employs such dolphins.

Hegseth and Caine pressed on reports of 'kamikaze dolphins' in Iran waters: 'Like sharks with laser beams?'


QuoteSpeaking at a press briefing at the Pentagon alongside Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair General Dan Caine, Hegseth was asked about "reports of kamikaze dolphins" that have appeared in some news outlets after Iran claimed it could use previously unused weapons in the two-month-old conflict. The BBC reported in 2000 that Tehran once purchased dolphins that had been trained for military operations.

Caine at first looked incredulous and said, "I haven't heard the kamikaze dolphins thing" before joking, 'You mean like sharks with laser beams?" a reference to the 1997 film Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery, in which Mike Myers' character Dr. Evil complains that he could not acquire "sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads" and was forced to settle for laser-equipped "mutant sea bass."
Hegseth then fielded the question, which appeared to emanate from an earlier Wall Street Journal report on Iran grasping for ways to break the Trump blockade of the strait.

"I can't confirm or deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins, but I can confirm they [Iran] don't," Hegseth said.

That still leave the space option wide open for Putin.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Sheilbh

I don't think anything ever surpasses that even in a career of fabulous line reads.

(Sadly fully colonised by capitalism and its debris nowadays :()
Let's bomb Russia!

crazy canuck

Oh good, more American winning.
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crazy canuck

The United States of America now says the war is over, there are no tanks in Baghdad.
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.