Iran War?

[crazy canuck]

I'm having trouble separating his lies from his delusions.

I am not sure there is a distinction

[Jacob]

Yeah, I think Trump's in a place where he can't really distinguish. I think it's only natural, given his whole way of being is about repeating a lie with enough force behind it to make everyone treat it as if it's true.

It's just that it's less effective when it comes to a war and negotiating with people outside of his normal spheres.

(as an aside, I saw a headline today I found funny: "Is Trump Negotiating With Iran or With Himself?")

[The Minsky Moment]

Does anyone else have a feeling that Hegseth may have misunderstood the gist of Jesus' teachings?

Of course, he's Evangelical, it's Christianity tailor made for the ignorant and stupid. There's virtually no serious theology in evangelicalism. It is all centered around charismatic imbeciles usually manipulating congregations for money.

I get now why many of that crowd lean Israel and sometimes Judeophile.  They are really wannabe Israelites in Christian costumes. They seem to beeline right to the most genocidy passages in the OT.  They may talk game about WWJD, but what they REALLY want to do is play Ephraimites slaughtering Amalekites.

[Tonitrus]

Does anyone else have a feeling that Hegseth may have misunderstood the gist of Jesus' teachings?

I mean, here is something his favorite conman said recently about the Democrat Senate candidate in Texas:

Haymes went on to say: "I pray that God kills him ... Ultimately, that means killing his heart and raising him up to new life in Christ."

In response, Potteiger agreed, saying: "Right, right ... We want him crucified with Christ."

Sounds more like something the Romans would say.

[Valmy]

I get now why many of that crowd lean Israel and sometimes Judeophile.  They are really wannabe Israelites in Christian costumes. They seem to beeline right to the most genocidy passages in the OT.  They may talk game about WWJD, but what they REALLY want to do is play Ephraimites slaughtering Amalekites.

It is kind of weird how often Amalek gets mentioned.

[garbon]

Yeah, I think Trump's in a place where he can't really distinguish. I think it's only natural, given his whole way of being is about repeating a lie with enough force behind it to make everyone treat it as if it's true.

It's just that it's less effective when it comes to a war and negotiating with people outside of his normal spheres.

(as an aside, I saw a headline today I found funny: "Is Trump Negotiating With Iran or With Himself?")

On the headline, I believe that is something Iran as said/questioned.

[Jacob]

On the headline, I believe that is something Iran as said/questioned.

Ah, right.

Yeah, I've seen a bit of Iranian social media talking trash about Trump. They're not doing a bad job, to be honest.

[crazy canuck]

Does anyone else have a feeling that Hegseth may have misunderstood the gist of Jesus' teachings?

Of course, he's Evangelical, it's Christianity tailor made for the ignorant and stupid. There's virtually no serious theology in evangelicalism. It is all centered around charismatic imbeciles usually manipulating congregations for money.

I get now why many of that crowd lean Israel and sometimes Judeophile.  They are really wannabe Israelites in Christian costumes. They seem to beeline right to the most genocidy passages in the OT.  They may talk game about WWJD, but what they REALLY want to do is play Ephraimites slaughtering Amalekites.

While I can see why you would make that conclusion, that is not it.  The reason that crowd leans toward supporting the state of Israel is because they believe that for the end times to occur the Temple needs to be rebuilt, and for that to happen Israel needs to exist.