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Started by Jacob, May 14, 2025, 04:36:30 PM

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Zoupa

Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2025, 01:21:43 PM
Quote from: Bauer on May 16, 2025, 01:15:02 PMYou would think it would be much more practical to build a solar farm up there.

They probably need power at night.

Batteries are a thing.

Savonarola

Quote from: Zoupa on May 16, 2025, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2025, 01:21:43 PM
Quote from: Bauer on May 16, 2025, 01:15:02 PMYou would think it would be much more practical to build a solar farm up there.

They probably need power at night.

Batteries are a thing.

Night lasts for fourteen earth days on the moon.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Bauer

How about solar satellites beaming down power then.

Savonarola

Quote from: Bauer on May 16, 2025, 03:20:29 PMHow about solar satellites beaming down power then.

This is well beyond my area of expertise; but I would assume you could use a mirror in lunar-synchronous orbit to reflect sunlight onto the lunar surface.  I have no idea what the cost of that would be relative to a nuclear power reactor.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Bauer on May 16, 2025, 03:20:29 PMHow about solar satellites beaming down power then.

Solar satellite ideas get floated a lot.  There are a number of obstacles that make the idea infeasible.  The primary one is that wireless energy transmission is really hard.  Yes, it can be done; however, it can't be done at rates that would make for a practical power system.

Sav's solar reflector idea is an interesting variation on the idea that addresses this specific problem.  I still think you'll have an issue with sunlight density not being high enough to get practical power out of the solar cells.

Zoupa

Quote from: Savonarola on May 16, 2025, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on May 16, 2025, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2025, 01:21:43 PM
Quote from: Bauer on May 16, 2025, 01:15:02 PMYou would think it would be much more practical to build a solar farm up there.

They probably need power at night.

Batteries are a thing.

Night lasts for fourteen earth days on the moon.

I did not know that.  :sleep:

Josquius

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 16, 2025, 04:00:56 PM
Quote from: Bauer on May 16, 2025, 03:20:29 PMHow about solar satellites beaming down power then.

Solar satellite ideas get floated a lot.  There are a number of obstacles that make the idea infeasible.  The primary one is that wireless energy transmission is really hard.  Yes, it can be done; however, it can't be done at rates that would make for a practical power system.

Sav's solar reflector idea is an interesting variation on the idea that addresses this specific problem.  I still think you'll have an issue with sunlight density not being high enough to get practical power out of the solar cells.

Even without the atmosphere getting in the way?

Solar satellites beaming down energy to earth are one of those fun things I remember well from science books as a kid but you just never hear anything about these days (both in the sense of the books were wrong, it didn't happen, and in what modern predictions for the future talk about)
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Savonarola on May 16, 2025, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on May 16, 2025, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2025, 01:21:43 PM
Quote from: Bauer on May 16, 2025, 01:15:02 PMYou would think it would be much more practical to build a solar farm up there.

They probably need power at night.

Batteries are a thing.

Night lasts for fourteen earth days on the moon.

Two connected solar arrays, one on each side? :hmm:

Syt

Quote from: Savonarola on May 16, 2025, 03:14:05 PMNight lasts for fourteen earth days on the moon.

So a fortnight on the moon is 14x14 Earth days? I like that. :)
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Syt on May 17, 2025, 12:25:37 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on May 16, 2025, 03:14:05 PMNight lasts for fourteen earth days on the moon.

So a fortnight on the moon is 14x14 Earth days? I like that. :)

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celedhring

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Well, it is less surprising when you take into account we initially built our calendar around moon cycles.