Quo Vadis, Democrats?

[garbon]

Snitches get stitches.

[grumbler]

Snitches get stitches.

  I knew you couldn't do so.  This is so Languish.

[garbon]

Snitches get stitches.

  I knew you couldn't do so.  This is so Languish.

Obviously CC was exaggerating  ut we do seem to have several posters who appear overly concerned with other people's property. Similar to how I'd early noted about Languish wanting people to stand up in the US and when a few do, the condemnation was swift in favor of protecting property.

And that's not to say we should cheer on destruction but that shouldn't be the only thing up for discussion / used as a negation of legitimate grievances.

[grumbler]

Obviously CC was exaggerating  ut we do seem to have several posters who appear overly concerned with other people's property. Similar to how I'd early noted about Languish wanting people to stand up in the US and when a few do, the condemnation was swift in favor of protecting property.

And that's not to say we should cheer on destruction but that shouldn't be the only thing up for discussion / used as a negation of legitimate grievances.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. The reason destruction of property is under discussion right now is that Zoupa was cheering it on. He can't say why how thinks that helps the anti-ICE movement, because even he knows that it only hurts.

Luckily for the movement, it is pretty clear that Zoupas are rare on the ground in LA.

[Oexmelin]

Currently, in the last few hours, the United States has:

an Executive branch that has federalized the National Guard, and sent Marines under the explicit pretext of "liberating" a city from its political leadership

a US Senator who was handcuffed and arrested for daring to interject in the lies of Noem

a military parade organized to celebrate the birthday of the President

two politically motivated murders of State legislators, legitimating abstaining from protests out of fear

the mobilization of the National Guard against the No Kings protests explicitly aimed at denouncing authritarian creep - with the implicit aim of preventing people from protesting.

Complaining about flags, and cars, seems to me to be the equivalent of the slowly boiled frog complaining that it is the other frog's agitation that is causing the water temperature to be slightly uncomfortable.

[Admiral Yi]

Complaining about flags, and cars, seems to me to be the equivalent of the slowly boiled frog complaining that it is the other frog's agitation that is causing the water temperature to be slightly uncomfortable.

I think it's the equivalent of the first frog saying burning a car and waving a frog flag will not be helpful in reducing the water temperature.

[Oexmelin]

The main problem I have is that the discerning frogs haven't suggested doing much, aside from complaining about other frogs, and trying to ascertain what is the reasonable amount of heat that should be applied to the boiling pot.

This is what I mean about impoverished politics. If the only possible answer is electoral politics, i.e., finding the right message, and waiting for the right herald to carry it, in the hopes that will somehow diffuse to the electorate in 4 years, I think you're done.

[Admiral Yi]

The main problem I have is that the discerning frogs haven't suggested doing much, aside from complaining about other frogs, and trying to ascertain what is the reasonable amount of heat that should be applied to the boiling pot.

This is what I mean about impoverished politics. If the only possible answer is electoral politics, i.e., finding the right message, and waiting for the right herald to carry it, in the hopes that will somehow diffuse to the electorate in 4 years, I think you're done.

The main problem I have with your implied richer, deeper politics is that it's the pussy version of civil war.  Burn some cars, kick some cops, wave some flags and profit.  Not only is it a pussy version of civil war, it's a civil war your side would prefer to lose.

[Razgovory]

We've also had an attempted assassination of a Governor, the assassinations of two members of a foreign diplomatic mission and the terrorists attack on unarmed protestors, and a lot of people seem to be cool with it.  That's not really the left I want to be part of.

[Oexmelin]

The main problem I have is that the discerning frogs haven't suggested doing much, aside from complaining about other frogs, and trying to ascertain what is the reasonable amount of heat that should be applied to the boiling pot.

This is what I mean about impoverished politics. If the only possible answer is electoral politics, i.e., finding the right message, and waiting for the right herald to carry it, in the hopes that will somehow diffuse to the electorate in 4 years, I think you're done.

The main problem I have with your implied richer, deeper politics is that it's the pussy version of civil war.  Burn some cars, kick some cops, wave some flags and profit.  Not only is it a pussy version of civil war, it's a civil war your side would prefer to lose.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Zoupa]

I'm not sure what left you're even talking about.

It's especially mind boggling on a day where 2 Democrat legislators were killed by a goptard.

[Sophie Scholl]

I'm not sure what left you're even talking about.

It's especially mind boggling on a day where 2 Democrat legislators were killed by a goptard.

Raz Fetterman only care about one thing these days. Everything else is only useful as it connects to that.

[Admiral Yi]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm talking about impoverished politics and its opposite.

[Oexmelin]

Ah.

I still have no idea what you are referencing. Pussy civil war? What?

[Razgovory]

I'm not sure what left you're even talking about.

It's especially mind boggling on a day where 2 Democrat legislators were killed by a goptard.

Raz Fetterman only care about one thing these days. Everything else is only useful as it connects to that.

It seems the socialism of fools is socialism enough for some.  Just hold your nose at the smell of burning flesh.