Quo Vadis, Democrats?

[dist]

I don't know why politicians the world over keep making that mistake over and over again. It never worked out. They are only giving a platform and legitimizing these fucktards.

[DGuller]

Sounds like they've been legitimized plenty, with getting presidency and Congress and everything.

[dist]

Not a reason to continue.

[mongers]

Not a reason to continue.

Indeed.

[DGuller]

I think talking to the other side is a useful exercise for Democrats, if you do it with an open mind.  Not to build a bridge to the person you're talking to, but to avoid burning a bridge with people who are not yet on the other side.  Another benefit of talking to the people on the right is that you can't spend this time talking to the people on the far left, which for a Democrat is very healthy in its own right.

[viper37]

I thought he'd knew better.  Especially with that fucking Nazi.

[viper37]

I think talking to the other side is a useful exercise for Democrats, if you do it with an open mind.  Not to build a bridge to the person you're talking to, but to avoid burning a bridge with people who are not yet on the other side.  Another benefit of talking to the people on the right is that you can't spend this time talking to the people on the far left, which for a Democrat is very healthy in its own right.

Depends whom you're talking to.

There are conservatives, former Republicans who believe in democracy.  People like the Lincoln Project.

Talk to this people, build bridges with these people, sure, go ahead.  You share an interest.

Don't go an talk with people who make Nazi salute to build bridges.

[Norgy]

From abroad it seems like the Democrats have just gone into hiatus and ended themselves. I am fairly sure it wasn't the loss of righteous citizen Robert F. Kennedy junior IV that did it.

Maybe we're not reporting it right.

Wait.

We are.

Fuck.

[HVC]

Its almost lile the democratic doners are rich and can weather the storm so there's no urgency on the politicians part... Oh wait.

[Norgy]

Pity Lewinski spilt the seed. We might have seen a William Buttgump Horatio Grilliam JFK Clinton junior now.

[DGuller]

I think talking to the other side is a useful exercise for Democrats, if you do it with an open mind.  Not to build a bridge to the person you're talking to, but to avoid burning a bridge with people who are not yet on the other side.  Another benefit of talking to the people on the right is that you can't spend this time talking to the people on the far left, which for a Democrat is very healthy in its own right.

Depends whom you're talking to.

There are conservatives, former Republicans who believe in democracy.  People like the Lincoln Project.

Talk to this people, build bridges with these people, sure, go ahead.  You share an interest.

Don't go an talk with people who make Nazi salute to build bridges.

Many people's descent into insanity started out with a gateway sane gripe.  When you talk to such people, obviously you should ignore all the Fox News garbage that they let into their brains once they opened themselves up, but you should try to understand what alienated them from your own side in the first place.  If you think that nothing could've alienated them, then you really, really should talk to such people.

[HisMajestyBOB]

I think talking to the other side is a useful exercise for Democrats, if you do it with an open mind.  Not to build a bridge to the person you're talking to, but to avoid burning a bridge with people who are not yet on the other side.  Another benefit of talking to the people on the right is that you can't spend this time talking to the people on the far left, which for a Democrat is very healthy in its own right.

Depends whom you're talking to.

There are conservatives, former Republicans who believe in democracy.  People like the Lincoln Project.

Talk to this people, build bridges with these people, sure, go ahead.  You share an interest.

Don't go an talk with people who make Nazi salute to build bridges.

Many people's descent into insanity started out with a gateway sane gripe.  When you talk to such people, obviously you should ignore all the Fox News garbage that they let into their brains once they opened themselves up, but you should try to understand what alienated them from your own side in the first place.  If you think that nothing could've alienated them, then you really, really should talk to such people.

It's because he's a Nazi. He wants a white supremacy dictatorship and the Democrats do not. That's what alienated him from the Democrats.

[Valmy]

Many people's descent into insanity started out with a gateway sane gripe.  When you talk to such people, obviously you should ignore all the Fox News garbage that they let into their brains once they opened themselves up, but you should try to understand what alienated them from your own side in the first place.  If you think that nothing could've alienated them, then you really, really should talk to such people.

I have no problem talking to people on the other side. Debate them and really get into the issues, maybe you get their fans to reconsider some of the issues. And yeah maybe they have some points you haven't considered before.

But that wasn't was Newsome did, he basically praised Charlie Kirk to high heaven and made nice with him all the while Kirk is insulting him to his face. And Kirk is considerably more far right than Fox News. And Michael Savage? Steve Bannon? These are very fringe far right people. Granted more and more mainstream as the far right takes over the country. That doesn't do anything productive.

Another benefit of talking to the people on the right is that you can't spend this time talking to the people on the far left, which for a Democrat is very healthy in its own right.

Yeah. Don't spend anytime trying to win over your core supporters. Don't bring on AOC or Bernie or any leftwing media people to try to convince them that the centrist Democratic way is correct. Don't try to unite the party or have a discussion with the people you need to vote for you. Just cancel them and ignore them. Kind of a hypocritical position Mr. no cancel culture.

[Razgovory]

I think talking to the other side is a useful exercise for Democrats, if you do it with an open mind.  Not to build a bridge to the person you're talking to, but to avoid burning a bridge with people who are not yet on the other side.  Another benefit of talking to the people on the right is that you can't spend this time talking to the people on the far left, which for a Democrat is very healthy in its own right.

No, I think Oex is right.  We need to go all in on extremism.  I think our next thing is go with the "Land Back" campaign.  Try to turn over all land in the United States to it's original owners, the native Americans.  Take property from 99% of the population and give it too 2% of the population.  That will really help turn out with the far-left.

[Valmy]

No, I think Oex is right.  We need to go all in on extremism.  I think our next thing is go with the "Land Back" campaign.  Try to turn over all land in the United States to it's original owners, the native Americans.  Take property from 99% of the population and give it too 2% of the population.  That will really help turn out with the far-left.

Nobody on the left is saying this. What a bunch of garbage.

Oh and having Kirk, Newsome, and Savage on IS going all in on extremism.