Housing policy megathread

[Valmy]

Who is the "you" here?
The social housing providers?
They're building housing with the intention of renting them out at below market price and the legal obligation to do this.
This is the very definition of rent control.

The landlord. Just like I can just decide to lose money on my units, the government can just decide what it wants to rent out its units for. It's "legal obligations" are self inflicted and are not applied to other landlords.

Rent control are laws that apply to all landlords in an area yes?

[Josquius]

Rent control are laws that apply to all landlords in an area yes?

No.
As said I don't think there are many places in the world that would have rent control under this definition.
Well. I said nowhere but I thinkkkk maybe Switzerland would apply - at least I'm not aware of the exemptions. It's in the minority however

Rent control laws tend to be targeted. They specify which housing they apply to and various exemptions.

Who is the "you" here?
The social housing providers?
They're building housing with the intention of renting them out at below market price and the legal obligation to do this.
This is the very definition of rent control.

The landlord. Just like I can just decide to lose money on my units, the government can just decide what it wants to rent out its units for. It's "legal obligations" are self inflicted and are not applied to other landlords

That's not how government works.
The body setting laws about rent controls are not the same ones managing the day to day of social housing. Very often they're not even ran by the same party. Then you've the housing association angle.

[frunk]

Sweden has rent control.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't according to this alternative definition. Aren't newly built apartments exempt?

Going off of wiki, here's a wordier definition of rent control:

Rent price controls remain the most controversial element of a system of rent regulation. Modern rent controls (sometimes called rent leveling or rent stabilization) are intended to protect tenants in privately owned residential properties from excessive rent increases. This is usually done by mandating gradual rent increases or rent freezes, while at the same time ensuring that landlords receive a return on their investment that is deemed fair by the controlling authority.

It isn't the same thing as social housing, which doesn't dictate what private landlords are charging.

[The Brain]

You are building units with the intention of renting them out at well below market prices yes?

Well even if they are free, that is still just renting it out at well below market prices.

That isn't establishing rent control.

Who is the "you" here?
The social housing providers?
They're building housing with the intention of renting them out at below market price and the legal obligation to do this.
This is the very definition of rent control.

There's a difference between an entity choosing to rent at a set price, and requiring all entities to rent at a set price.  The latter is rent control, the former is not.

So rent control has never existed anywhere I believe.

Sweden has rent control.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't according to this alternative definition. Aren't newly built apartments exempt?

Your statement isn't even internally consistent.

[Josquius]

Sweden has rent control.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't according to this alternative definition. Aren't newly built apartments exempt?

Going off of wiki, here's a wordier definition of rent control:

Rent price controls remain the most controversial element of a system of rent regulation. Modern rent controls (sometimes called rent leveling or rent stabilization) are intended to protect tenants in privately owned residential properties from excessive rent increases. This is usually done by mandating gradual rent increases or rent freezes, while at the same time ensuring that landlords receive a return on their investment that is deemed fair by the controlling authority.

It isn't the same thing as social housing, which doesn't dictate what private landlords are charging.

This quote says nothing about it not applying to social housing.

I know the law around this in the UK (on a medium level at least. Better than most due to past work experience but lawyer I ain't) . Our social housing is very definitely rent controlled. And we aren't weird in this.

[frunk]

This quote says nothing about it not applying to social housing.

It's not about whether rent control applies to social housing, it's that social housing isn't rent control.  They are two different things.

[Josquius]

This quote says nothing about it not applying to social housing.

It's not about whether rent control applies to social housing, it's that social housing isn't rent control.  They are two different things.

Looking again I see they put the word private in there. It's a low down sub section of a minor article but this needs fixing as it's bollocks.
Rent control is a type of policy that can be applied to any segment of the housing market, large or small, social or private.

[Grey Fox]

All I wanted was to share some good news on the on going liquidation of Landlords in the United Kingdom.
  

[garbon]

All I wanted was to share some good news on the on going liquidation of Landlords in the United Kingdom.
  

And now we are stuck in a loop. Thanks for that.

[Admiral Yi]

I *think* Squeeze is talking about non profits when he says social housing.  At least that would make sense.

[DGuller]

Can we do another round of steel manning, please?