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Started by Norgy, August 27, 2024, 07:56:14 AM

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viper37

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Quote from: Oexmelin on August 28, 2024, 03:36:53 AMI obviously worked, and lived, almost exclusively in English when I taught in the United States - which does wonders for picking up slang... But this was, as Josquius notes, quite mentally taxing, in ways that native English-speaking folks often can't imagine - and ways I hadn't imagined either. As my partner then was Irish, I also did not have a "safe heaven", a household where I could retreat to, and speak French - unless I called my parents. Only a few French colleagues I met for a beer, from time to time.
Never had to totally immerse myself like that.

The closest I've been was in Ottawa, by my closest working unit were separatist Francos in 1995 :menace:

I still unofficially managed the rest of the team and the programmer exclusively in English though, despite the presence of French speakers.  It was the Federal government, after all. :P

And of course, my family there were all Franco-Ontarians, so I could see them on the week-ends I wasn't working.  I had no roommates for this part, and wasn't attending that 5 à 7 with the other university students as I was mostly always working late and didn't know anyone either.

Still, I enjoyed that part.  Working exclusively in English this time didn't bother as much as the last time when we were all French speakers and there was one English speaker.  In a bilingual position.  I had cable tv with only English channels, I think.  Didn't watch the French stuff anyway, just Babylon 5 and Star Trek.
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viper37

Quote from: The Brain on August 28, 2024, 06:19:51 AMConstruction - konstruktion
absolut konstruktion
translated as:
absolute construction.


Yeah.  Someone is messing with me on the internet.  :glare:
:P

It's architecture, right?
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Norgy

What I can say for certain is that this board helped me understand English better back when I joined, even with a degree in English (a lower one, for certain).

What's Wordsworth to the various ways people tell each other to eff off.  :lol:

viper37

Quote from: Norgy on September 02, 2024, 04:32:08 AMWhat I can say for certain is that this board helped me understand English better back when I joined, even with a degree in English (a lower one, for certain).

What's Wordsworth to the various ways people tell each other to eff off.  :lol:
I'm getting a feeling for Swedish now.  Fracking language. :P
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

The Brain

Quote from: viper37 on September 01, 2024, 07:49:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 28, 2024, 06:19:51 AMConstruction - konstruktion
absolut konstruktion
translated as:
absolute construction.


Yeah.  Someone is messing with me on the internet.  :glare:
:P

It's architecture, right?

Konstruktion is when you design something. It doesn't include manufacturing/building it.
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In German, Konstruktion would probably be best translated as design (n), i.e. the design of a car, building, machine etc.
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Quote from: Norgy on September 02, 2024, 04:32:08 AMWhat I can say for certain is that this board helped me understand English better back when I joined, even with a degree in English (a lower one, for certain).

What's Wordsworth to the various ways people tell each other to eff off.  :lol:

I am quite certain hanging around on Languish helped me a lot. I already had an advantage over many (most) English-speaking Hungarians of the time by having learnt the language out of practical necessity (my nerdy hobbies required it) and for practical use, so I wasn't speaking and writing the extremely lame language-course English most other people at the time had.

But then coming here reading your discussions and participating myself I think has helped a lot in learning to express my thoughts in English.

More indirectly, I think you guys helped push me away gradually from prevailing political/cultural norms in my old country which I suspect contributed in a non-insignificant way to making me want to try and live abroad.

PDH

Quote from: Tamas on September 08, 2024, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: Norgy on September 02, 2024, 04:32:08 AMWhat I can say for certain is that this board helped me understand English better back when I joined, even with a degree in English (a lower one, for certain).

What's Wordsworth to the various ways people tell each other to eff off.  :lol:

I am quite certain hanging around on Languish helped me a lot. I already had an advantage over many (most) English-speaking Hungarians of the time by having learnt the language out of practical necessity (my nerdy hobbies required it) and for practical use, so I wasn't speaking and writing the extremely lame language-course English most other people at the time had.

But then coming here reading your discussions and participating myself I think has helped a lot in learning to express my thoughts in English.

More indirectly, I think you guys helped push me away gradually from prevailing political/cultural norms in my old country which I suspect contributed in a non-insignificant way to making me want to try and live abroad.

AND you learned the Union zerg-rush in 1862 could have been a thing.
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