Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Razgovory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEa9CpVTCCo

[Razgovory]

Really weird to go to Sudan to explain to kids in a refugee camp about how hard people in Gaza have it.  https://www.tiktok.com/@soha_x/video/7566743964896873750

[Razgovory]

Looks like that "no Israelis on our campus" thing in Britain is really taking off. Someone set up a website offering bounties for the murder of Israeli academics.   

https://www.timesofisrael.com/anonymous-website-offers-100000-to-kill-top-israeli-research-academics/

An anonymous anti-Israel website was discovered on Friday to be offering payments of up to $100,000 for the execution of senior Israeli academics whom it accused of being complicit in Israel's war in Gaza.

The English-language site, The Punishment For Justice Movement, appeared to have been taken down by Friday afternoon, hours after garnering significant media attention.

The site called for the execution of a list of Israeli academic figures whom it said were deemed to be "criminals and collaborators with the occupation army" and "distributors of weapons of mass destruction to the Israeli army," who are "involved in the murder of Palestinian children."


An anonymous anti-Israel website was discovered on Friday to be offering payments of up to $100,000 for the execution of senior Israeli academics whom it accused of being complicit in Israel's war in Gaza.

The English-language site, The Punishment For Justice Movement, appeared to have been taken down by Friday afternoon, hours after garnering significant media attention.

The site called for the execution of a list of Israeli academic figures whom it said were deemed to be "criminals and collaborators with the occupation army" and "distributors of weapons of mass destruction to the Israeli army," who are "involved in the murder of Palestinian children."



Among the dozens listed on the site as "special targets" were Shikma Bressler, an anti-government protest leader who is a physicist at the Weizmann Institute of Science, and Ben Gurion University President Danny Chamovitz.

In addition to rewards for their execution, the site offered a reward of $1,000 for placing signs in front of targets' homes and $20,000 for burning their vehicles.


It claimed that all of the academics were given warnings over the past few months to "abandon criminal activity," but because they did not, they "have been chosen as legitimate targets for the movement."

Hundreds of other Israeli academics or students were also listed, and a $50,000 reward was offered for their deaths.


The movement "invites all unofficial military groups, armed groups and fighters to join the movement to confront these criminals and benefit from the rewards of punishing these victims and killers while trying to defend human rights and help the oppressed children of Gaza," the webpage declared.

Some of those listed live outside of Israel, including in the US.

Hours after Hebrew media reports broke about the website, it was unavailable, apparently having been removed, although it was not clear by whom.

Chamovitz, who has been the president of Ben Gurion University since 2019, said in response to the site, which called for his death, that he was "mostly worried about the extremist discourse that encourages violence."


He said he trusts the security services in Israel and other countries will "know how to deal with this incident."

The Committee of Research Universities, which sits under the Council for Higher Education in Israel, said in a statement that it was "a dangerous and horrific escalation."

The forum said the incident "joins the wave of antisemitism and hatred of Israel from abroad, creates a toxic and deadly mix that may end in harm to human life, God forbid."


According to the Ynet outlet, which first reported on the site, the page is hosted in a Western nation, potentially the US, and is using virtual private networks (VPN) and ciphers as security precautions.

A source familiar with the case told Ynet that it represents "a most serious rise in the level of threat against Israeli citizens."

The "open call to cause physical harm and the offering of remuneration make this a real threat that requires immediate attention," the source said.

The Mossad spy agency and Shin Bet security service have launched a swift probe into the matter, the report said. Officials suspect that Iran is behind the website.

Israel's universities have sent messages to academics warning them to be cautious and avoid publicizing details of trips abroad, and report anything suspicious, Ynet reported.

[Richard Hakluyt]

I don't think that we in the UK want to take the blame for everything unpleasant posted in English.

[Josquius]

Interesting this gets you so upset when it was dealt with quickly and doesn't seem to have led to anything.
All that Islamophobia out there which X just let's slide by must really annoy you. You're clearly just getting a giant mega post ready.

[Razgovory]

Interesting this gets you so upset when it was dealt with quickly and doesn't seem to have led to anything.
All that Islamophobia out there which X just let's slide by must really annoy you. You're clearly just getting a giant mega post ready.

Is there movement to keep Muslims out of British Universities?  I didn't know about that.  I really didn't know X is putting bounties on Muslims.  That's shocking.  I'm surprised that you care so much about Islamophobia.  I thought you disliked religion.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The left loves islam, for reasons unknown.

[Valmy]

The left loves islam, for reasons unknown.

Islam is a shitty religion that preserves ancient perverse values founded by a man who was almost certainly a cult leader. But so is Mormonism and I am against oppressing Mormons also. Doesn't mean I love Mormonism.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The left often enables the shitty religion though (Brussels is a nice example). And Mormons don't generally commit acts of mass terror a la Bataclan. Nor do the result in Christmas markets having to be secured with all matter of fences and concrete blocks.

[Valmy]

The left often enables the shitty religion though (Brussels is a nice example). And Mormons don't generally commit acts of mass terror a la Bataclan. Nor do the result in Christmas markets having to be secured with all matter of fences and concrete blocks.

Well I cannot speak for Euros but I don't see how we enable it any more than shitty versions of Christianity. Also our Christians are much shittier than yours and our country is just polluted with tons of insane cults of various degrees of dangerousness. All are perfectly enabled under our first amendment.

You want to make your kid basically a slave and a prisoner in your religious cult compound? With some very poorly enforced guidelines you can. Freedom baby.

But in Euro land I don't think you can do that. So I get the dynamics are different.

[Josquius]

I favour people being free to make their own mistakes on such matters (as long as it stays within the lines of course).
And if stopping people being Muslim is your goal you'll have a lot more luck extending the joys of sex, drugs and rock n roll than screaming Islam bad at them.
But come on. Let's be honest. Most Islamophobia has fuck all to do with Islamic doctrine. If they were all coptic Christians you'd see the same thing only against copts.

One thing I do hate though is hypocrisy. And god is the stench of it strong from the far right and other Netanyahu bummers.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

The left often enables the shitty religion though (Brussels is a nice example). And Mormons don't generally commit acts of mass terror a la Bataclan. Nor do the result in Christmas markets having to be secured with all matter of fences and concrete blocks.

Well I cannot speak for Euros but I don't see how we enable it any more than shitty versions of Christianity. Also our Christians are much shittier than yours and our country is just polluted with tons of insane cults of various degrees of dangerousness. All are perfectly enabled under our first amendment.

You want to make your kid basically a slave and a prisoner in your religious cult compound? With some very poorly enforced guidelines you can. Freedom baby.

But in Euro land I don't think you can do that. So I get the dynamics are different.

Very. It's both packets of religious fanatics. And those are always crap