2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

[The Brain]

Do you find many common expressions passive aggressive?

[Barrister]

Trump on the other hand is counting on young black males to come out and vote for him (this is all the anti-trans stuff). 

Heard an interview on NPR t'other day which said resistance to a female president was the factor pushing black voters to Trump.

Could be. :idunno:

Edit: Did Harris being a black female make it better or worse?

[Habbaku]

You don't have to go with "So I mean". You can just say what you hope!

My view on "I mean" has evolved as I've been exposed to more and more content-free verbal ticks that are passive aggressive.  "I mean" is objectionable because it's content free filler, but at least it's not passive aggressive.

I agree it's not passive aggressive and so don't really have a problem with it. But I find it amusingly objectionable for precisely the reason you state. I excuse it much more in speech than I do in writing, where we (some of us, anyway) can choose to be more or less succinct in getting our point across.

[Habbaku]

Do you find many common expressions passive aggressive?

I find commoners passive aggressive.

[Admiral Yi]

Do you find many common expressions passive aggressive?

A few.

[Tamas]

If it is a big Harris win, Trumpists will claim its evidence of cheating. If it is a narrow Harris win, Trumpists will claim its evidence of cheating.

And if it is a Trump win, they will claim it's evidence of cheating. Maybe we should agree with them. 

I think if he wins violence will come from the scum who take his mass deportation promises and internal enemy rhetoric seriously. Sort of like the more extreme version of the rise of racist incidents over here following the Leave vote. They'll think they have the green light to abuse people.

[Barrister]

You don't have to go with "So I mean". You can just say what you hope!

My view on "I mean" has evolved as I've been exposed to more and more content-free verbal ticks that are passive aggressive.  "I mean" is objectionable because it's content free filler, but at least it's not passive aggressive.

I agree it's not passive aggressive and so don't really have a problem with it. But I find it amusingly objectionable for precisely the reason you state. I excuse it much more in speech than I do in writing, where we (some of us, anyway) can choose to be more or less succinct in getting our point across.

Well, I mean, you know, that's, like, just your opinion, man!

[Habbaku]

You don't have to go with "So I mean". You can just say what you hope!

My view on "I mean" has evolved as I've been exposed to more and more content-free verbal ticks that are passive aggressive.  "I mean" is objectionable because it's content free filler, but at least it's not passive aggressive.

I agree it's not passive aggressive and so don't really have a problem with it. But I find it amusingly objectionable for precisely the reason you state. I excuse it much more in speech than I do in writing, where we (some of us, anyway) can choose to be more or less succinct in getting our point across.

Well, I mean, you know, that's, like, just your opinion, man!

 

[Admiral Yi]

Well, I mean, you know, that's, like, just your opinion, man!

Scooby dooby doo!

[Barrister]

Well, I mean, you know, that's, like, just your opinion, man!

Scooby dooby doo!

Not what I was thinking, but well played.  :golfclap:

[Admiral Yi]

 

[grumbler]

An interesting article in The Globe and Mail, behind a paywall, Interviewing a number of pollsters, who indicate that there's a concern that the reason the race looks so close is because a lot of effort has gone into correcting for past years when Trump support was under reported in the polls. 

The upshot, according to one of the people that was interviewed,  is that all the surprises on election day will be in favour of Harris.  That person said it's very difficult to judge how much the polls might be over corrected but estimated it could range from getting it exactly right to 9 points off in Harris' favour.

That's a tempting theory to accept. We'll soon see.

[Sheilbh]

I don't think it's so much fighting the 2016 battle but rather it's just bad politics to call the voting public names.  I can't believe American politics has descended to this level, but there we are.

Well quite - see Nye Bevan (the founder of the NHS) saying Tories were "lower than vermin" followed by Young Conservatives launching "vermin clubs", wearing little badges with rats on them etc - and the following elections were incredibly close and Labour not helped by that.

Not to mention the radicalising effect - for example Maggie Thatcher becoming "Chief Rat" in her local branch of the Young Conservatives

My view on "I mean" has evolved as I've been exposed to more and more content-free verbal ticks that are passive aggressive.  "I mean" is objectionable because it's content free filler, but at least it's not passive aggressive.

Given your previous vicious attacks on me for saying "I mean" - I feel vindicated

[Admiral Yi]

Given your previous vicious attacks on me for saying "I mean" - I feel vindicated

You shouldn't. 

If you and your overly submissive confreres dilute the manners market to the point where "I mean" becomes the expectation as opposed to a little fluffy bonus, Seppuku and I will have to reap the fallout from the high maintenance emo spazzes you've created.

[Grey Fox]

I've seen many ads on Reddit reminding Texas women that it's a secret ballot and your husband does not need to know.