The battle lines have been drawned: Utah fired the first shot.Pornhub retaliated

Started by viper37, May 02, 2023, 01:15:49 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

viper37

Pornhub Blocks All of Utah From Its Site

There's gonna be a lot of angry letters sent to politicians... :lol:

Quote
People in Utah who visit Pornhub will now be greeted by adult performer Cherie DeVille asking them to tell their representatives to change their age verification law. 


In response to a new law that requires porn sites to verify users' ages, Pornhub has completely disabled its websites for people located in Utah.

As of today, anyone accessing Pornhub from a Utah-based IP address doesn't see the Pornhub homepage, but instead is met with a video of Cherie DeVille, adult performer and member of the

Adult Performer Advocacy Committee, explaining that they won't be able to visit the site. 

"As you may know, your elected officials in Utah are requiring us to verify your age before allowing you access to our website," DeVille says. "While safety and compliance are at the forefront of our mission, giving your ID card every time you want to visit an adult platform is not the most effective solution for protecting our users, and in fact, will put children and your privacy at risk." 

DeVille continues: 
Quote"In addition, mandating age verification without proper enforcement gives platforms the opportunity to choose whether or not to comply. As we've seen in other states, this just drives traffic to sites with far fewer safety measures in place. Very few sites are able to compare to the robust Trust and Safety measures we currently have in place. To protect children and user privacy, any legislation must be enforced against all platforms offering adult content.
 The safety of our users is one of our biggest concerns. We believe that the best and most effective solution for protecting children and adults alike is to identify users by their device and allow access to age-restricted materials and websites based on that identification. Until a real solution is offered, we have made the difficult decision to completely disable access to our website in Utah.
 Please contact your representatives before it is too late and demand device-based verification solutions that make the internet safer while also respecting your privacy."
Utah Governor Spencer Cox signed SB 287: Online Pornography Viewing Age Requirements into law in March.

It will go into effect on May 2. 

"A commercial entity that knowingly and intentionally publishes or distributes material harmful to minors on the Internet from a website that contains a substantial portion of such material shall be held liable if the entity fails to perform reasonable age verification methods to verify the age of an individual attempting to access the material," the text of the law states. 

It defines harmful material as "material that exploits, is devoted to, or principally consists of descriptions of actual, simulated, or animated display or depiction of any of the following, in a manner patently offensive with respect to minors: (i) pubic hair, anus, vulva, genitals, or nipple of the female breast; (ii) touching, caressing, or fondling of nipples, breasts, buttocks, anuses, or genitals; or (iii) sexual intercourse, masturbation, sodomy, bestiality, oral copulation, flagellation, excretory functions, exhibitions, or any other sexual act." 

In January, Pornhub started requiring identification from Louisiana-based users, following the passage of a law that makes porn sites liable for content deemed "harmful to minors." Several copycat bills started moving through state legislatures with varying success, including in

Arkansas, which recently passed its version into law.

In 2016, Utah declared porn a "public health crisis," and "an epidemic that is harming the citizens of Utah and the nation." Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have recently and historically represented the majority of legislators in Utah, and in 2009, Utah was considered the "online porn capital" of the United States, with the most porn consumers logging on in the nation. In 2021, Cox signed a law that would require device manufacturers to add adult content filters on all smartphones and tablets sold in Utah.

Experts say that age verification doesn't work to protect children online, and only works to drive material that is harmful to minors to less safe spaces on the internet, while exposing adults to more risk of identity theft, private data hacks, and extortion. Immediately after SB 287 passed the house and senate in Utah, residents there started discussing how best to use virtual private networks to keep accessing porn.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Josquius

Cool and all, but they did this without a wimper in some European countries I believe?
██████
██████
██████

HVC

Quote from: Josquius on May 02, 2023, 02:01:53 AMCool and all, but they did this without a wimper in some European countries I believe?

You have to prove your ID every time you want to wank in Europe?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: HVC on May 02, 2023, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: Josquius on May 02, 2023, 02:01:53 AMCool and all, but they did this without a wimper in some European countries I believe?

You have to prove your ID every time you want to wank in Europe?

UK ≠ Europe.  :P

viper37

Quote from: Josquius on May 02, 2023, 02:01:53 AMCool and all, but they did this without a wimper in some European countries I believe?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_UK_Internet_age_verification_system

Not implemented yet.
There seems to be a lot of lobbying from private companies to implement such systems.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 02, 2023, 07:29:55 AM
Quote from: HVC on May 02, 2023, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: Josquius on May 02, 2023, 02:01:53 AMCool and all, but they did this without a wimper in some European countries I believe?

You have to prove your ID every time you want to wank in Europe?

UK ≠ Europe.  :P

La France aussi...

There are many problems of security with this.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Josquius

IIRC didn't Pornhub already put some pretty strict verification checks up for France?
I'm sure they did it with one EU country though I can't remember exactly which
██████
██████
██████

viper37

Quote from: Josquius on May 02, 2023, 09:28:22 AMIIRC didn't Pornhub already put some pretty strict verification checks up for France?
I'm sure they did it with one EU country though I can't remember exactly which
Not implemented yet, afaik.

But it recently changed hands, so maybe things will change.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: viper37 on May 02, 2023, 09:13:04 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 02, 2023, 07:29:55 AM
Quote from: HVC on May 02, 2023, 02:13:34 AM
Quote from: Josquius on May 02, 2023, 02:01:53 AMCool and all, but they did this without a wimper in some European countries I believe?

You have to prove your ID every time you want to wank in Europe?

UK ≠ Europe.  :P

La France aussi...

There are many problems of security with this.

Europe is not just France, however.  :P
The UK used to have pretty tight censorship laws, still somewhat in place, see the Cinematograph Films (Animals) Act 1937, so I am not surprised.

More seriously (or not), not being a Pornhub or the like user, I betrayed myself.  :P

Josephus

In principle I'm all for some sort of age verification.  But it's got to be implemented right; and yeah, showing ID  each time you want to wankresearch the effects of porn on society is not the answer
Civis Romanus Sum

"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011