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Started by Solmyr, March 31, 2023, 06:56:13 AM

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Which party leader would you support?

Solmyr

Quote from: Josquius on April 28, 2023, 05:41:37 AM
QuoteThe Finns are against all immigration and green energy, and want to leave the EU
One of these things is not like the others.
Nutty how that always happens.

I wonder how this is playing for the Swedes helping to prop up fascists who want to see them ethnically cleansed...
The Finns of course I expect see no issues with biding their time on that minority?

Yeah, this has fuelled a big debate in their party, and according to a recent poll, the vast majority of their voters would have preferred participating in a more liberal government. On the other hand, the Swedes are known for being in every single government in Finnish history except one (2015-2019), usually agreeing to almost anything as long as Swedish language minority rights are protected.

One argument for including the Finns in the government now is that they are a party for protest voters, and now it's time for them to show their ability to govern. They have a problem with not enough skilled politicians (their presidential candidate is a creationist evolution denier and one of their EU parliament MPs is an alcoholic who basically doesn't know anything). But the argument goes that if they stay in the opposition now, their support will only grow because they'd be free to shout from the sidelines without any real responsibility.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Solmyr on April 28, 2023, 03:36:31 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 27, 2023, 08:42:14 AMPutin likes this?

Rather uniquely for most of Europe, the Finnish far-right nationalists are mostly anti-Russia (even though there've been some uncertainty), so there's that at least. :P

Countries near troublesome Russia have, for some reason, anti-Russian nationalists.  :P

Sheilbh

:lol: That's very fair. I'm not aware of any pro-Russian party in Poland, for example.
Let's bomb Russia!

crazy canuck

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 28, 2023, 07:49:14 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on April 28, 2023, 03:36:31 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 27, 2023, 08:42:14 AMPutin likes this?

Rather uniquely for most of Europe, the Finnish far-right nationalists are mostly anti-Russia (even though there've been some uncertainty), so there's that at least. :P

Countries near troublesome Russia have, for some reason, anti-Russian nationalists.  :P

Finns have historically been, well let's just say a bit suspicious of outsiders.  What makes these parties far right in the Finnish context?

Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 28, 2023, 10:23:40 AMFinns have historically been, well let's just say a bit suspicious of outsiders.  What makes these parties far right in the Finnish context?

I think it was said they're against all immigration, against green policies, wanting to leave the EU, and consider the Swedish minority "not real Finns" and are against various protections (language rights, education, etc) for them?

Solmyr

Quote from: Jacob on April 28, 2023, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 28, 2023, 10:23:40 AMFinns have historically been, well let's just say a bit suspicious of outsiders.  What makes these parties far right in the Finnish context?

I think it was said they're against all immigration, against green policies, wanting to leave the EU, and consider the Swedish minority "not real Finns" and are against various protections (language rights, education, etc) for them?

That's about it. Also, their members somehow accidentally tend to end up in photos together with actual Nazis.

Oh, and the writings of the previous party leader, Jussi Halla-aho (who might become a minister now), inspired Anders Breivik. :ph34r:

Solmyr


Threviel

That's an absolute shocker after those soft porn videos she did with some other guy.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Threviel on May 10, 2023, 11:38:39 AMThat's an absolute shocker after those soft porn videos she did with some other guy.

Please elaborate.  :homestar:

Threviel

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 10, 2023, 11:54:08 AM
Quote from: Threviel on May 10, 2023, 11:38:39 AMThat's an absolute shocker after those soft porn videos she did with some other guy.

Please elaborate.  :homestar:
She was filmed dancing rather un-platonic with some guy.

Solmyr

There's some speculation that she might be polyamorous or otherwise in an open/non-monogamous relationship. She's been with the guy for 19 years, but they married only in 2020 when she became PM, and are now divorcing - so the marriage might have been simply to prevent her relationship being a subject of scrutiny. According to the statement, they are still good friends and plan to raise their child together.

viper37

Quote from: Solmyr on May 10, 2023, 10:50:31 AMBecause the Languish pervs want to know, Sanna Marin is getting divorced.  :perv:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/10/finland-prime-minister-sanna-marin-files-for-divorce

Unlike the US, you can become Prime Minister without being born in the country over here.

Just sayin'.

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Valmy

Actually we can't become Prime Minister at all in the US regardless of where you were born.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

viper37

Quote from: Valmy on May 10, 2023, 03:34:33 PMActually we can't become Prime Minister at all in the US regardless of where you were born.
:P
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on May 10, 2023, 03:34:33 PMActually we can't become Prime Minister at all in the US regardless of where you were born.

You can be a Prime Minister IN the US, just not one OF the US.
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