Is the Obama Administration Over?

[Razgovory]

Tht's a feeble attempt at a retort.

It's true, there is eight years of failure for him to bring up.  Stuff he did before the presidency doesn't compare.

[Hansmeister]

Healthcare is going to pass.  The No Reform ads are ridiculous and desperate.  The fact that government plan/no government plan is the big divisive issue shows where the center has moved on this issue.

Obama and the Democrats are safe as long as the economy is weak.  Only way they will be in trouble is if the economy recovers and we either have high inflation or high interest rates.

Actually it doesn't have a snow-ball's chance in hell of passing.  The public is already opposed to the plan and opposition will only grow as more details emerge in the coming weeks.  Obama's press conference on health care was a complete train wreck despite the softball questions from the press.  Unable to pass it by stealth prior to August recess means that they will get an earful from their voters on their reckless health care plan while back home.  Add to that that the mid-point budget forecast revisions will come out (Obama has been stalling its release due to the effect it will have on the debate), which will sharply revise downward the previous growth projections for the second half of this year and next year, which will blow the deficits sky high for years to come.  In addition, the official unemployment rate will cross the psychologically important 10% threshhold (unofficial unemployment will close in on 20%).  When they get back from recess in September Congress will be in turmoil over the staggeringly high deficits for years to come and all talk of healthcare reform and cap-and-trade will cease, while they try to panickly write next years budget and mollify the public and the credit markets.

Obama blew it, he wasted all his political capital on a pork-laden, worthless "stimulus" bill and now his credibility is used up.  Amongst likely voters his approval rating has already dropped beneath 50% and it will head lower over the next few weeks.

[Jaron]

I sure hope he never drops down to Bush levels!

[Eddie Teach]

Actually it doesn't have a snow-ball's chance in hell of passing.

Such certainty! You wouldn't happen to have next week's lotto numbers would you?

Congress is full of Democrats who want Obama to succeed, so they'll probably pass something.

[MadImmortalMan]

I sure hope he never drops down to Bush levels!

I predict that the majority of Presidents in the modern era going forward will reach those kinds of levels at some point in their terms. It's inevitable. Obama may not.

[Admiral Yi]

You a bettin' man Square?

[Razgovory]

Actually it doesn't have a snow-ball's chance in hell of passing.

Such certainty! You wouldn't happen to have next week's lotto numbers would you?

Congress is full of Democrats who want Obama to succeed, so they'll probably pass something.

He was certain of the finial end of the democratic party back in 2005.  I find his certainity very reassuring.

[DGuller]

I sure hope he never drops down to Bush levels!

I predict that the majority of Presidents in the modern era going forward will reach those kinds of levels at some point in their terms. It's inevitable. Obama may not.

I think you're grossly underestimating Bush's contribution to those numbers.  I really do think that he was an exceptionally catastrophic president, and it will take some time before we get the next one like him, Democrat or Republican.

[Jaron]

[DGuller]

He was certain of the finial end of the democratic party back in 2005.  I find his certainity very reassuring.

I don't, once I think about what he does for a living.  Every time I read his post I feel myself less and less safe.

[MadImmortalMan]

I think you're grossly underestimating Bush's contribution to those numbers.  I really do think that he was an exceptionally catastrophic president, and it will take some time before we get the next one like him, Democrat or Republican.

Possibly so. Bush is a special case. But with all the hyper-scrutiny public figures get now, I think we'll continue to see an overall decline in the average approval ratings. Before, those guys could have affairs and nobody would know. Now, they can't even accidentally walk into a window or hit their head getting into a helicopter without the whole world laughing at them.

[Admiral Yi]

Caribou Barbie.  hehe.  hehe.

[Hansmeister]

I think you're grossly underestimating Bush's contribution to those numbers.  I really do think that he was an exceptionally catastrophic president, and it will take some time before we get the next one like him, Democrat or Republican.

Nonsense, he was just a mediocre President.  The only thing that was exceptionally catastrophic was the conduct by the hysterical media.

It is almost bizarre how the MSM went from foaming at the mouth insane hatred of Bush to schoolgirl-crush hysterical support for obama.  the good thing is that they'll soon all be out of a job, what a joke the MSM has become.

[Hansmeister]

You a bettin' man Square?

I'll guarantee nothing will pass this year, there is simply not enough oxygen left.  And if anything called 'health care reform' passes in the following years it ill only be a relatively meaningless, small face-saving measure, but even that much is doubtful.  The magic's gone, and now you just have an overexposed celebrity (though the press will try their darndest to revive him).  Blue Dog Democrats are scared for their lives, 60 of them have to run for reelection in districts McCain won in '08.  They're already on life support and are not going to try to bail out Obama at their own expense.

It'll be a futile effort since most of them will be toast anyway in '10, when the GOP is certain to retake the House (though not the Senate).

[derspiess]

Healthcare is going to pass.  The No Reform ads are ridiculous and desperate.  The fact that government plan/no government plan is the big divisive issue shows where the center has moved on this issue.

Obama and the Democrats are safe as long as the economy is weak.  Only way they will be in trouble is if the economy recovers and we either have high inflation or high interest rates.

You usually make sense, Yi, but I don't understand you on either point.