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Started by Admiral Yi, November 05, 2022, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 08, 2022, 11:22:38 AMMy kids friends (so far as I can tell) despise the GOP, but they don't look at the Democrats as any kind of saviors either.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on November 08, 2022, 12:46:02 PMPart of the problem frankly is we give voters too many opportunities to voice their displeasure. I think our country would at least have a reduction in problems (none solved completely, of course) if we only voted every 4 years. I'd be perfectly fine with House and Senate terms both being standardized at 4 years and held in sync with the Presidential election.The theory was staggering it protected us from a "dangerous faction" controlling the country. But in practice countries that have unified elections seem to have less trouble with that than America does. Sure, it was good in 2018 we were able to vote out the Republican House so we could at least put brakes on Trump's shit to some degree. But the reality is a lot of voters seem to have bad attitudes because of a pervasive perception of "no matter who I vote for nothing gets done." They don't understand the civics and process side of it--that the way we structure our government means you can vote a team in one year, but then 2 years later you enable them to be gutted and make it so they can do nothing. Generally I think it would be a lot healthier if Presidents came into office with four years ahead of them facing the consequences of their election. If voters gave them the House and Senate, that's a sign that the President should push aggressively his policies. If they give him a divided government then it means he needs to figure out how to negotiate that for the next four years.
Quote from: Oexmelin on November 08, 2022, 12:24:24 PMRestricting political action to only voting every cycle isn't much more than apathy either.
Quote from: garbon on November 08, 2022, 01:07:12 PMI'm not sure the UK's model is currently crowning itself in glory. It appears to be allowing a moribund party to hang around longer than it should.
Quote from: garbon on November 08, 2022, 01:10:53 PMQuote from: Oexmelin on November 08, 2022, 12:24:24 PMRestricting political action to only voting every cycle isn't much more than apathy either. I'm not sure on the extent to which widespread, increase civic participation would be a net positive. Do you have an examples in mind?
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 08, 2022, 02:03:38 PMReminds me of the Wilde line that the trouble with socialism is it takes up too many evenings.I don't think that's the only sort of engagement or action though - campaign groups or, indeed, party activism might be another way.
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