The Freedom of Speech Thread

[crazy canuck]

I agree, and I wonder if the solution is regulating social media to standards similar to broadcasters. 

[grumbler]

Both the "fascists" and the "far left" pretend that any Drazi not wearing their colors has opinions that are beyond the pale.  You can tell who they are by their unironical use of words like "fascist" or "woke" to describe those not wearing their colors.

[chipwich]

Both the "fascists" and the "far left" pretend that any Drazi not wearing their colors has opinions that are beyond the pale.  You can tell who they are by their unironical use of words like "fascist" or "woke" to describe those not wearing their colors.

What descriptor would you prefer for far left other than woke? I notice that the left puts in a lot of rhetorical effort to defy classification.

[Josquius]

As said "you just call everyone who disagrees with you a fascist" is a fallacy I see fascists throwing about far more than I see them actually being called out for being fascists. They're often eager to go there before the word is even uttered.
It seems to be their go to technique that they believe instantly shields their shit. It helps them a lot that it gets taken up beyond their circle.

Far left people just calling anyone from the right-right a fascist ala Bush-Hitler just isn't something I see much these days. It helps of course that many powerful figures are flirting with actual fascism these days.
More typically when the far left are moaning about the wrong sort of socialist and that sort of thing the insults are usually liberal or centrist or stuff in that vein.

[Eddie Teach]

You're calling "them" out right now.

[Josquius]

You're calling "them" out right now.

The far left doesn't just call everyone a fascist != fascists don't exist.

[Admiral Yi]

Squeeze, where do you gather your data on the frequency of people being called fascists and fascists claiming people call everyone they disagree with a fascist?

I wouldn't know where to start looking for this information.

[grumbler]

What descriptor would you prefer for far left other than woke? I notice that the left puts in a lot of rhetorical effort to defy classification. 

By the original (US) definition of "woke" I am definitely one who considers himself woke.  I am not at all far left, though.  Woke is a shitty term to describe a person.

[chipwich]

What descriptor would you prefer for far left other than woke? I notice that the left puts in a lot of rhetorical effort to defy classification. 

By the original (US) definition of "woke" I am definitely one who considers himself woke.  I am not at all far left, though.  Woke is a shitty term to describe a person.

You totally ignored my question and my rationale and asking it.

[Admiral Yi]

I use progressive left.

[chipwich]

Progressive is a loaded term and not one their enemies would use.

[Admiral Yi]

You didn't ask what their enemies would use.  I told you my preferred term.

Yes, it's loaded, but IMO it's the least bad descriptor.  Moderately neutral.

[Eddie Teach]

Progressive is pretty ambiguous. How do you define progress?

[garbon]

Progressive is pretty ambiguous. How do you define progress?

Merriam Webster says progressive: one believing in moderate political change and especially social improvement by governmental action

[Eddie Teach]

Are you going to consult the dictionary to determine what are social improvements next?