Has Biden Made the Right Choice in Afghanistan?

[mongers]

News coming in about a US missile strike on a suspected suicide car bomber nr Kabul airport, reports of secondary explosions from vehicle, but no indications of civilian deaths/injuries yet. 

[mongers]

Meanwhile Biden is off to salute the Kabul fallen:

Biden to honour service members killed at Kabul airport

US President Joe Biden has travelled to the Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to honour the 13 US service members killed in the suicide bomb attack on Kabul airport on Thursday.

Up to 170 people, most of them Afghan civilians, died in the attack, which Islamic State's Afghanistan branch said it carried out.

The president and First Lady Jill Biden will "meet the families of fallen American service members who gave their lives to save Americans, our partners, and our Afghan allies in Kabul," Mr Biden's schedule says.

They will then honour the transfer of the troops' remains from an aircraft flown to the base.

Did Trump ever do this?

I remember film of LBJ doing this and I think Nixon might have?

[viper37]

Did Trump ever do this?

He called the families to tell them how he was the greatest President ever.

[Solmyr]

Did Trump ever do this?

He called the families to tell them how he was the greatest President ever.

He also said that soldiers who got killed are losers, no?

[viper37]

Did Trump ever do this?

He called the families to tell them how he was the greatest President ever.

He also said that soldiers who got killed are losers, no?

Capturer soldiers are losers (according to him).  Not sure about those who get killed, but it's possible he said that too.

[Syt]

https://www.newsweek.com/stuart-scheller-resigns-commission-after-being-relieved-command-afghanistan-remarks-1624127

Stuart Scheller Resigns Commission After Being Relieved of Command for Afghanistan Remarks

Marine Officer Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller said on Sunday that he is resigning his commission after being dismissed from command over his remarks about the U.S. troops withdrawal from Afghanistan.

"I'm currently not pending legal action and I could stay in the Marine Corps for another three years, but I don't think that's the path I am on. I'm resigning my commission as a United States Marine effective now," he said in a new video posted on his Facebook and LinkedIn accounts. "I have forfeited my retirement, all entitlements, I don't want a single dollar."

Scheller also recalled that his boss asked him about what he was trying to accomplish by posting a video criticizing the Afghanistan withdrawal.

"Now it was a very tough question for me and my response was I want senior leaders to accept accountability," Scheller said. All I asked for was accountability of my senior leaders when there are clear, obvious mistakes that were made. And had they done that I would have gone back into rank and accomplished what I wanted."

Towards the end of the 10-minute video, Scheller warned of the consequence of going after stability and money, which, he said, can make a person "a slave to the system."

"I don't need a single dollar. I just need every single person that's willing to go back outside the wire every single day to wear a blue collar, and just go into work every single day and feed their families," he said. "Those are the people that I need. Follow me and we will bring the whole f****** system down."

This week, Scheller gained widespread attention after demanding accountability and criticizing senior military leadership for their handling of the U.S. troops withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Scheller pointed out mistakes made throughout the evacuation process in a four-minute video posted on social media on Thursday, shortly after the ISIS-K bombing outside the Hamid Karzai airport in Kabul that killed 13 U.S. service members and many Afghans.
His video went viral and sparked controversy, with some commentators praising Scheller's notes about the operation and others criticizing him for calling out his senior leaders while in uniform and urging him to resign.

"Stuart Scheller would make a better Secretary of Defense than Lloyd Austin," wrote Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican, in a tweet.

Donald Trump Jr. weighed in, as well, saying it was "disgrace" that Scheller had been relieved.

Scheller wrote in a Facebook post on Friday that he has been relieved due to the public criticism made after his clip went viral.

In a response to Newsweek, Maj. Jim Stenger, Marine Corps spokesperson, stated:

Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller was relieved of command by Col. David Emmel, Commanding Officer of School of Infantry-East, due to a loss of trust and confidence in his ability to command.

This is obviously an emotional time for a lot of Marines, and we encourage anyone struggling right now to seek counseling or talk to a fellow Marine. There is a forum in which Marine leaders can address their disagreements with the chain of command, but it's not social media.

Meanwhile in China the state-controlled Global Times said the Scheller story showed the "low morale" in the U.S. military.

Newsweek contacted Scheller for further comments but didn't receive an immediate response.

Obvs. my family likes the guy.

[Valmy]

Seems kind of weird to claim that before the operation is even completed. Whatever mistakes the military or bureaucrats made in this operation would need to be reviewed once the operation is finished.

[mongers]

It's official, the last US aircraft has left Kabul; mission over (at least for a while)

[11B4V]

https://www.newsweek.com/stuart-scheller-resigns-commission-after-being-relieved-command-afghanistan-remarks-1624127

Stuart Scheller Resigns Commission After Being Relieved of Command for Afghanistan Remarks

Marine Officer Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller said on Sunday that he is resigning his commission after being dismissed from command over his remarks about the U.S. troops withdrawal from Afghanistan.

"I'm currently not pending legal action and I could stay in the Marine Corps for another three years, but I don't think that's the path I am on. I'm resigning my commission as a United States Marine effective now," he said in a new video posted on his Facebook and LinkedIn accounts. "I have forfeited my retirement, all entitlements, I don't want a single dollar."

Scheller also recalled that his boss asked him about what he was trying to accomplish by posting a video criticizing the Afghanistan withdrawal.

"Now it was a very tough question for me and my response was I want senior leaders to accept accountability," Scheller said. All I asked for was accountability of my senior leaders when there are clear, obvious mistakes that were made. And had they done that I would have gone back into rank and accomplished what I wanted."

Towards the end of the 10-minute video, Scheller warned of the consequence of going after stability and money, which, he said, can make a person "a slave to the system."

"I don't need a single dollar. I just need every single person that's willing to go back outside the wire every single day to wear a blue collar, and just go into work every single day and feed their families," he said. "Those are the people that I need. Follow me and we will bring the whole f****** system down."

This week, Scheller gained widespread attention after demanding accountability and criticizing senior military leadership for their handling of the U.S. troops withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Scheller pointed out mistakes made throughout the evacuation process in a four-minute video posted on social media on Thursday, shortly after the ISIS-K bombing outside the Hamid Karzai airport in Kabul that killed 13 U.S. service members and many Afghans.
His video went viral and sparked controversy, with some commentators praising Scheller's notes about the operation and others criticizing him for calling out his senior leaders while in uniform and urging him to resign.

"Stuart Scheller would make a better Secretary of Defense than Lloyd Austin," wrote Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican, in a tweet.

Donald Trump Jr. weighed in, as well, saying it was "disgrace" that Scheller had been relieved.

Scheller wrote in a Facebook post on Friday that he has been relieved due to the public criticism made after his clip went viral.

In a response to Newsweek, Maj. Jim Stenger, Marine Corps spokesperson, stated:

Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller was relieved of command by Col. David Emmel, Commanding Officer of School of Infantry-East, due to a loss of trust and confidence in his ability to command.

This is obviously an emotional time for a lot of Marines, and we encourage anyone struggling right now to seek counseling or talk to a fellow Marine. There is a forum in which Marine leaders can address their disagreements with the chain of command, but it's not social media.

Meanwhile in China the state-controlled Global Times said the Scheller story showed the "low morale" in the U.S. military.

Newsweek contacted Scheller for further comments but didn't receive an immediate response.

Obvs. my family likes the guy.

He should have be fired.

[Zanza]

Only being relieved of your current command for public insubordination during an active operation as a military officer seems rather lenient.

[Razgovory]

He should have written his Congressman or Senator.

[HisMajestyBOB]

He should have written his Congressman or Senator.

He'll be a Representative or Senator before long.

[Threviel]

UK's last purely civilian flight has left Kabul. All the remaining flights will also be pulling out the remaining essential diplomats and military personnel.

Did you get the dogs out?

Apparently the dogs got out, but 68 staff of the animal shelter had to be left behind. They were in the group of people that would have been given a spot on a plane, but apparently 150 dogs/cats were more important to the cunt running the dog shelter.

But speaking to LBC on Saturday, Foreign Affairs Select Committee chair Tom Tugendhat said: "The difficulty is getting people into and out of the airport and we've just used a lot of troops to bring in 200 dogs, meanwhile my interpreter's family are likely to be killed.

"As one interpreter asked me a few days ago 'why is my five-year-old worth less than your dog?'," the Conservative MP added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-58370218

What a fucking disgrace.

[Eddie Teach]

There are very few humans more valuable to me than my cat.

[Tamas]

UK's last purely civilian flight has left Kabul. All the remaining flights will also be pulling out the remaining essential diplomats and military personnel.

Did you get the dogs out?

Apparently the dogs got out, but 68 staff of the animal shelter had to be left behind. They were in the group of people that would have been given a spot on a plane, but apparently 150 dogs/cats were more important to the cunt running the dog shelter.

But speaking to LBC on Saturday, Foreign Affairs Select Committee chair Tom Tugendhat said: "The difficulty is getting people into and out of the airport and we've just used a lot of troops to bring in 200 dogs, meanwhile my interpreter's family are likely to be killed.

"As one interpreter asked me a few days ago 'why is my five-year-old worth less than your dog?'," the Conservative MP added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-58370218

What a fucking disgrace.

This guy seems to have an army of 30+ ladies showering him with praise on Twitter. My favourite was "the world is watching" - yes, with disgust.