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Started by Syt, May 21, 2021, 01:46:04 PM

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The Minsky Moment

Now we just need an effective Monroe-Canning Doctrine to protect South America.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Syt

Played a bit with Austria yesterday - I generally don't hate Power Blocs, but the Ideological Union (with its buffs to passing laws) seems silliest of all IMO. Best something for late game when you build your Communist International or something. (And Customs Union/Foreign Trade principles seem kinda no brainers at the moment. I added Bavaria/Saxony to the bloc, plus some more Italians. I don't want to form Germany (and will try to stop Italy from forming), but rather a hegemony based on "traditional values."

I was hoping to snipe something from Ottomans in their early war against Egypt, but Britains seems REALLY eager in 1.9 in general to ally the Ottomans in early game. <_<

So I'm building my economy right now, trying to secure soft influence in Germany and cozying up with France, Russia, and USA for now while not pissing off Britain.

As usual - ethnic minorities = non-factor in first 10 years at least.
We are born dying, but we are compelled to fancy our chances.
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Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Tamas

I think the law-passing buff is actually OP for Austria. It means you can succeed with very low success-percentage laws and reform yourself early and fast. It is ridiculous that you are getting all these boons because you have a few teeny-tiny countries under your influence.

Syt

Played into the 1920s.

I kept Monarchy/Autocracy well into the 1880s or so, but finally had to switch because the Land Based Tax was not cutting it anymore. By 1920s we were a Presidential Republic with Census Suffrage. Those changes made it sometimes hard to hold onto my Power Bloc members (because you lose points if you have laws that are too different). I had to kick out some members shortly after joining because they tanked cohesion too much. :D

France, for a long time, was a monster, first with 1k troops (ca. half and half standing vs conscripts). A few observations: I sold out to UK twice because wars had nearly bankrupted me (one against Russia that I had joined looking to dismember it a bit, another because Prussia (plus France, plus Russia, plus Brazil, plus Mexico - both Great Powers) started a German leadership play - it was  touch and go, but my navy managed to starve the Prussians out. Though I did get the "All Quiet on the Western Front" achievement from the war (1M dead on one front). Seemed a bit gamey to have UK pay of 90M in debt (though at one point I had to give them investment rights for a few years while waiting for the treaty to time out (during which the UK bought half my GDP ... though I had as much coming in from GDP my companies/capitalists owned abroad, plus income from puppets. Speaking of - it seems a bit easy to sway some countries to become your protectorate when they enter a civil war. Even when they have the army to defeat the insurrection (like 3:1). That's how I got Turkey and Italy, actually (and some small guys).

Also, it seems the Liberate Subject wargoal seems a bit broken. I'm fairly sure it rarely (ever?) fired when the target capitulated.

Weirdest war:



That's Mexico (with Sweden) starting a play against Lübeck to make it a protectorate. Against USA and Brazil.  :huh:

I would have joined, but I was like 2 or 3 pixels from bankruptcy. :P

When I ended play Austria had become the Danubian Federation, gobbling up some more minors.

Europe:



The World:



(Yes, Mexico owns Alaska :lol: I helped the US defeat the Confederacy, but never got to help them assert themselves against Mexico who were often helped by France and became a superpower). British India collapsed (as it often does these days), though it clung on till the 1900s, and they still hold large chunks.

And the Power Blocs:



I guess I could take a victory lap and unite Germany (or Central Europe), but I also don't quite want to fight that mega-war (because it would involve France, which would bring in other great powers, and only GB would join me), because while late game performance is ok, during huge wars it's quite a bit slower. :P

Some thoughts: totally ignored colonies or getting "exotic" territories (had a brief attempt at Somalia, but eh. just focused on Europe instead). Still got enough rubber or opium through imports (with a bit of a delay), though I think the Foreign Trade focus in my Power Bloc helped, giving me more trade power.

While mostly playing in Europe, I still enjoyed this playthrough a fair bit.
We are born dying, but we are compelled to fancy our chances.
- hbomberguy

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Solmyr

Serbia be like:  :ph34r:

Norgy

I sometimes feel like this is just animated Excel sheets.

But I do like Victoria 3, despite its many flaws.

I've tried most of the major powers, except the UK. I have not tried Qing yet, but I expect it might be a lot like Russia or Japan, desperate political gambles to rid yourself of some useless laws and weaken the ruling classes.

I would also like to have the same option as in HoI4 to have "historical AI focuses", even without a focus tree. The free for all conquests and absolutely no real penalty for being both over-stretched geographically and having conquered all and sundry at bayonet point are not great.

The Excel sheets need to become a bit more than just a lesson in how to make your economy sustainable.
Me establishing colonies in the Pacific as Italy just because I have an interest there makes no sense as long as I don't have a proper fleet (two guys sharing a plank in the Med) nor really any military presence outside of Sicily.

"Colonial range" from EUIV could be useful.

Also. Power blocs. The concept needs some refining. At the very least.

Syt

Well, I decided to finish off the last few years.

Formed Germany (though didn't get Prussia for some reason), then Central Europe. I made a point of removing Russian access to the Black Sea. :P I conquered Prussia, but ate a lot of infamy. <_<







A significant amount of my budget was coming from my puppets.  :ph34r:

We are born dying, but we are compelled to fancy our chances.
- hbomberguy

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.