COVID vaccinations! Have you gotten yours?

[crazy canuck]

There have been trials under way in many places in Canada, so I guess they are comparing vaccinated test subjects with those who got a placebo.

I do not know at which point those who got a placebo will be told they need to come back for the real one...

Anyway.  In my area, it's for 75+ right now.
Once it lowers a notch, I'll have my dad's girlfriend register for both of them, and I guess I'll be among the next group, given my health problems.

No placebo shots have been given in Canada.

[Admiral Yi]

It'll probably be travelable.  I think GF's timeline is about right for everyone receiving their second dose (Quebec is also following that strategy).  It'll be hard to justify having the border closed if the US is largely vaccinated and disease-free.

I also need the peelers to be reopened.

[Josquius]

Mam has had first. Over 60 and has asthma.
GFs dad in Switzerland has had both. Over 60 with a more serious health issue.
My dad, over 60 and healthy, has recieved a letter but no date yet.
No sign of anyrhing for me. I don't have any qualifying health problems.

[Caliga]

I got my first last Wednesday and will be getting my second on March 31st.

[Admiral Yi]

I got my first last Wednesday and will be getting my second on March 31st.

Remind me how you got to jump the line.

[Sheilbh]

Mam has had first. Over 60 and has asthma.
GFs dad in Switzerland has had both. Over 60 with a more serious health issue.
My dad, over 60 and healthy, has recieved a letter but no date yet.
No sign of anyrhing for me. I don't have any qualifying health problems.

Yeah my dad - almost 80 with health issues - has been vaccinated and my mum - almost 60 - has her jab booked.

The main relief is that all of my very high risk family didn't get covid and have now been vaccinated which I'm incredible relieved about.

[Caliga]

Remind me how you got to jump the line.

I'm fat, have asthma, and my company deemed me an essential worker.

[Barrister]

It'll probably be travelable.  I think GF's timeline is about right for everyone receiving their second dose (Quebec is also following that strategy).  It'll be hard to justify having the border closed if the US is largely vaccinated and disease-free.

I also need the peelers to be reopened.

I mean I kind of assumed, but didn't want to go right out and say it...

I dunno, it's probably 50 / 50.  Are you okay with no lapdances, just watching the show?  And sex workers probably don't follow public health guidelines anyways.

[Barrister]

There have been trials under way in many places in Canada, so I guess they are comparing vaccinated test subjects with those who got a placebo.

I do not know at which point those who got a placebo will be told they need to come back for the real one...

Placebos are used as part of a drug trial.  They need to compare the effectiveness of the drug compared to no treatment.  If you're in a drug trial you'll know it - and you'll certainly have to sign waivers and consents.

What governments are handing out now are the vaccines themselves.  No pracebos.

[Sheilbh]

I know the people who got the vacines in the trial aren't getting vaccinated now (partly to work out how long you're protected) - does that mean the people in the placebo control group also don't get vaccines? Feels a bit weird ethically so I assume you'd have to vaccinate the placebo group at some point - or no?

[Barrister]

I know the people who got the vacines in the trial aren't getting vaccinated now (partly to work out how long you're protected) - does that mean the people in the placebo control group also don't get vaccines? Feels a bit weird ethically so I assume you'd have to vaccinate the placebo group at some point - or no?

Once the trial is over they're supposed to notify everyone in the placebo group to give them the real thing.

[Scipio]

Got it. Moderna. Got a bad man cold on 2d day after 2d shot.

[Caliga]

Got it. Moderna. Got a bad man cold on 2d day after 2d shot.

Yeah, I had the Moderna shot too and it was rough going the day after the first shot, so I'm a little concerned about the second one since everyone says the second one is typically worse.

[ulmont]

I know the people who got the vacines in the trial aren't getting vaccinated now (partly to work out how long you're protected) - does that mean the people in the placebo control group also don't get vaccines? Feels a bit weird ethically so I assume you'd have to vaccinate the placebo group at some point - or no?

Once the trial is over they're supposed to notify everyone in the placebo group to give them the real thing.

This depends on the trial, I believe. J&J has agreed to unblind participants who become vaccine eligible, and (if authorized in their locality) to give placebo recipients the J&J vaccine at this point.

...the trial is 2 years long and you don't want to be without a vaccine that long if you can avoid it.

[DGuller]

I don't qualify in New Jersey yet, unless I take up smoking.  I wonder whether that would be a net win on the life expectancy.