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Quo Vadis GOP?

Started by Syt, January 09, 2021, 07:46:24 AM

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Admiral Yi

The Christian right will never give up Israel.  Trumpies have already given up the free market.  Fuentes is a clown.

Razgovory

You don't think the all those protests across the world hold any water?  What are they doing if not trying to stop a genocide?  I don't understand.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:32:15 PMThe Christian right will never give up Israel.  Trumpies have already given up the free market.  Fuentes is a clown.

A bunch already have.  Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Margery Taylor Greene.  Half of them think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. The tide is turning.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1-5558286/israel-republicans-antisemitism-carlson

46% of Republicans sympathize more with Israelis than Palestinians.  So less than half.  And Republicans, for the most part, don't like Arab Muslims at all...
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 02:46:00 PMA bunch already have.  Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Margery Taylor Greene.  Half of them think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. The tide is turning.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1-5558286/israel-republicans-antisemitism-carlson

46% of Republicans sympathize more with Israelis than Palestinians.  So less than half.  And Republicans, for the most part, don't like Arab Muslims at all...

I don't know who Candace Owens is.  Tucker Carlson and MTG I would not slot in the Christian right.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 02:46:00 PMA bunch already have.  Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Margery Taylor Greene.  Half of them think Israel killed Charlie Kirk. The tide is turning.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/07/nx-s1-5558286/israel-republicans-antisemitism-carlson

46% of Republicans sympathize more with Israelis than Palestinians.  So less than half.  And Republicans, for the most part, don't like Arab Muslims at all...

I don't know who Candace Owens is.  Tucker Carlson and MTG I would not slot in the Christian right.
Margery Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson are a Christian nationalists.  Candace Owens is a popular podcaster that worked for the Daily Wire I think, but got fired over the Gaza war.  Very popular.

It's not 2004 anymore, the right is turning on Israel.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

Tucker Carlson is not an evangelical; he's a yuppie Republican that turned to the Pat Buchanan wing. Candace Owen is a full-fledged conspiricist, she recently converted to Catholicism (?) Doesn't seem much religious content to her "thought".  MTG has a New Agey background, she poses as Christian to get elected in Georgia.

That said Raz, I basically agree with you on the broader point.  GOP now split between the philo and antisemites and the latter are gaining ground fast. 
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 02:57:34 PMI don't know who Candace Owens is.  Tucker Carlson and MTG I would not slot in the Christian right.

You don't know? Lucky fucker.

She is a nutty conspiracy theorist right wing black lady who thinks Israel murdered Charlie Kirk. Total weirdo.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

HVC

Isn't she the one that came up with macrons wife is a dude thing?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 07:13:41 PMTucker Carlson is not an evangelical; he's a yuppie Republican that turned to the Pat Buchanan wing. Candace Owen is a full-fledged conspiricist, she recently converted to Catholicism (?) Doesn't seem much religious content to her "thought".  MTG has a New Agey background, she poses as Christian to get elected in Georgia.

That said Raz, I basically agree with you on the broader point.  GOP now split between the philo and antisemites and the latter are gaining ground fast. 

You don't have to evangelical to be part of the Christian Right.  Most of them only have most basic concept of Christianity in the first place.  I doubt many are particularly orthodox in their beliefs.  But they are Christian Nationalists.  They are not so much united by what they belief in, but what they exclude.  Muslims, Hindus, less-white Catholics, and Jews...

We are seeing a seismic shift going on right under our feet.  I thought thing were bad under Bush and the Iraq war.  What's happening now is so much worse.  But Palestine is gaining allies... We are Molotov-Ribbentroping our way to a Free Palestine.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Speaking of MTG, she just quit Congress after Trump called her a traitor.   :huh:  I don't understand the world anymore.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017