Quo Vadis GOP?

[Admiral Yi]

Jordan lost the third vote 112 to 86.

[Jacob]

Turns out doing things is harder than sabotaging other people doing stuff.

[Grey Fox]

Grifters only know how to grift.

[Razgovory]

Republicans have nominated Tom Emmer for speaker, but Trump is trying to sink him.  26 Republicans voted against him behind closed doors and it looks like enough will vote against him on the floor to finish him off.

[Sheilbh]

Also interesting that the GOP House when voting for a candidate ended up picked what's probably the best (very much a relative term) option:

[Sheilbh]

And he's dropped out

[Razgovory]

Dammit, this is stupid.

[Admiral Yi]

The FREEDOM!!!! caucus is in effect saying we will only accept one of our own as Speaker.

[PDH]

Nihilism kills the party

[jimmy olsen]

The FREEDOM!!!! caucus is in effect saying we will only accept one of our own as Speaker.

Boebert and Gaetz weren't on this list. I think this was a combination of him certifying the election and voting to federalize recognition of same sex marriages. It's just impossible to find someone who twenty members of the GOP don't hate. (Except for Kevin, where there's just 8)

[FunkMonk]

Difficult to see this getting resolved any time soon. We'll probably be far into a government shutdown before a few of the Rs decide "fuck it" and vote for a Dem speaker.

[celedhring]

I see the guy that they ended up electing scored pretty strongly in the asshole chart Sheilbh posted.

[The Minsky Moment]

On the plus side, he's for avoiding a complete financial collapse of the United States.   It's a low bar but all one can expect from today's GOP.  He's a safe pair of hands for when Gaetz pushes for the Americans Put Their Heads in A Running Woodchipper Act of 2024.

[Barrister]

On the plus side, he's for avoiding a complete financial collapse of the United States.   It's a low bar but all one can expect from today's GOP.  He's a safe pair of hands for when Gaetz pushes for the Americans Put Their Heads in A Running Woodchipper Act of 2024.

What worries me a lot is Ukraine though.  Without US aid Ukraine could collapse pretty quickly.

[The Minsky Moment]

I don't think there is any realistic scenario where Ukraine collpases, with or without US aid.  But it would result in a lot more dead Ukranian soldiers and civilians and the strengthening of the Russian strategic position. 

It would also be a crass betrayal of US national security interests.  Sending military aid to Ukraine is and has been, dollar-for-dollar the most effective and efficient use of US resources for military and strategic purposes that has existed in this century.