Quo Vadis GOP?

[The Larch]

So now the Trump backed candidates are not even the crazy(er) ones...

Far-right election denier beats Trump's pick for Michigan GOP
Kristina Karamo, who refused to concede her run for secretary of state, beat Donald Trump's choice for state chair in a chaotic convention

LANSING, Mich. — Republicans here, reeling from a midterm election rout that many blamed on the influence of former president Donald Trump, responded Saturday by spurning the former president's choice for state party chair — and choosing someone even more extreme.

Kristina Karamo, who refused to concede her 14-point loss for secretary of state in 2022, beat former attorney general candidate Matt DePerno, who had Trump's endorsement, in three rounds of contentious voting. The chaotic 11-hour convention, featuring a rowdy standoff over voting procedures and 10 candidates who all ran under a pro-Trump banner, left no doubt that the bulk of the party's activists in this key battleground state remain firmly committed to election denial and showed no interest in moderating their message to appeal to the political center.

"Conceding to a fraudulent person is agreeing with the fraud, which I will not do," Karamo said to cheers in her campaign speech on Saturday.

The outcome also dealt a tactical defeat to Trump, even though all the candidates competed for aligning themselves with him. Many delegates said they discounted or even resented Trump's involvement in the race, especially after a midterm cycle that saw widespread wrangling over his down-ballot endorsements in the state.

"We love Donald Trump, but he don't live here," said Mark Forton, another candidate for chair who endorsed Karamo.

In a Thursday speech to a right-wing "patriot" group in nearby Charlotte, Karamo argued that Christianity belonged at the core of American politics, called evolution "one of the biggest frauds ever perpetuated on society," and asserted the existence of demons.

"When we start talking about the spiritual reality of the demonic forces, it's like, 'Oh, my God, this is crazy, we can't go there,'" Karamo said. "No. It's like, did you read the Bible? Didn't Jesus perform exorcisms? ... Scriptures are clear. And so if we're not operating as though the spirit realities of the world exist, we're going to fail every time."

In 2022, Democrats swept statewide races in Michigan and won control of both legislative chambers, achieving full statewide control for the first time since the 1980s. In 2024, the state is poised to host early primary contests and be a competitive presidential and Senate battleground.

"Do I think it destroyed the state party? For sure," Christine Barnes, an unsuccessful state House candidate who skipped this year's convention, said of Trump's interventions. "And the party is a hot mess right now."

The outcome here Saturday underscores the stark reality confronting Republicans across the country: Months after general election voters across the country rejected extreme, election-denying candidates such as Karamo, DePerno and former Arizona gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake, many party activists remain enthralled by them. Some Republicans have voiced concern that this trend could set the party back at the ballot box in future races.

Lake, who has yet to concede defeat in Arizona and has waged an unsuccessful legal fight to challenge the results of her 2022 race, has been traveling the country promoting false election claims, as she weighs a run for U.S. Senate in 2024. And Trump, in his third run for president, continues to promote false claims about the 2020 election.

Trump held a tele-rally for DePerno on Monday, calling him a "defender of election integrity." DePerno rose to prominence as a lawyer chasing conspiracy theories in Michigan's 2020 election; a Republican state Senate report faulted him for spreading misinformation, and he came under state investigation for allegedly tampering with voting machines.

But some delegates said they grew to doubt DePerno because, unlike Karamo, he conceded his loss in November.

"Matt ran out on us; he didn't fight for us," said Mark DeYoung, a delegate from Harrison, Mich., and chairman of the Clare County GOP.

Karamo led from the first ballot, increasing her lead with every round but needing three ballots to secure a majority. She won with 58 percent of the vote to DePerno's 42 percent.

DePerno attempted to edge her out by winning support from runners-up. His campaign had prepared fliers announcing the endorsement of JD Glaser, who received 12 percent of the vote in the first round. Glaser said DePerno secured his support by offering to make him policy director.

Between the second and third ballots, DePerno attempted to make another deal with the third runner-up, veteran GOP consultant Scott Greenlee, according to people familiar with the exchange who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive issues. But Greenlee walked away from the offer and opted not to endorse either finalist.

Unlike at recent party elections in Arizona and the Republican National Committee, no consensus candidate emerged who could unite the party's fractious coalition. Greenlee came closest, as an experienced operative with donor connections and pro-Trump bona fides stretching back to 2016. He also secured the endorsement of musician Ted Nugent and Ryan Kelley, a former gubernatorial candidate who has been charged in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.

But Karamo, who turned to her bid for state chair quickly after her November loss, proved to have the strongest base of support and broadest appeal. Her campaign was vague and varied on specifics for what she would do as chair, saying in her speech on Thursday that her first priority would be to "get my hands around the operation." She made faith central to her appeal, beginning her remarks that night by saying, "My goal number one as a Christian is to bring people to Christ, and secondarily to save our country."

Many delegates interviewed named Karamo's faith as one of their primary attractions to her. Her nomination was seconded by Petoskey attorney Dan Hartman, who said, "It's not about election integrity ... I want you to understand that I changed my life and decided to serve Christ." Several other candidates prominently invoked Christianity in their campaigns.

One delegate who took exception was Marla Braun, from Jackson County, who said she was "disgusted with wrapping Christianity around Republicanism" and abstained rather than vote for either Karamo or DePerno in the last round.

"The party has to know that what we put forward here is not acceptable," Braun said.

The first several hours of the convention were taken up by an extended dispute over the how the votes would be counted, underscoring the mistrust among many delegates for both the previous party leadership and of election outcomes. "How many of us got in this fight because of flash drives and laptops?" one delegate said to cheers, arguing against using electronic equipment to record votes at the convention. With hand counts taking sometimes more than an hour for each round of voting, the convention lasted four hours longer than planned, wrapping up just before the venue was due to kick the Republicans out.

Despite his backing by the biggest name in Republican politics, DePerno ran a sluggish campaign, often seen wandering the convention hall alone. One delegate waiting to vote criticized him for using his allotted time to present a video endorsement from Trump rather than making his own speech.

DePerno also had the endorsement of Mike Lindell, the election conspiracy theorist and MyPillow CEO, and Lake. DePerno had touted Lake as a special guest at a pre-election party on Friday at a Lansing bar called the Nuthouse, but Lake did not appear. (Her aides cited a scheduling conflict.)

DePerno declined to comment.

Several members of Trump's presidential campaign team were present to observe. The campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The state was crucial to Trump's surprise election victory in 2016, but he lost Michigan to President Biden in 2020.

"People love to talk about President Trump in a loss mode, but he's a king. He's our king," outgoing GOP co-chair Meshawn Maddock, who was supporting DePerno, said in an interview. "I'm so tired of hearing that our party has moved too far to the right. The problem is we haven't moved far enough."

[Josquius]

I have to say. If I was a sensible Trumpist (I know I know) I would certainly be pushing for batshit lunatics to run so I look like the sensible moderate in between them and the crypto-socialists of the regular right.

[garbon]

"We love Donald Trump, but he don't live here"

[viper37]

[The Brain]

Unfortunately they lack the skill needed.

[Valmy]

Hey Marge what choice do you think your Biden voting state that has two Democratic Senators would make?

Anyway this is entirely ridiculous as there really isn't any such thing as a "blue" or "red" state. Even the reddest state has 1/4th of its population voting for the Democrats. There really isn't a big sectional divide like the 1850s. For the most part the cities are blue and the rural areas are red.

[The Minsky Moment]

MTG still thinks the Confederacy won the civil war when George Washington and Jesus dropped from jet planes and captured General Sherman.  It's possible she hasn't clearly thought out the full implications of her position.

[The Larch]

A new round in the Florida Vs. Higher education fight is coming.

Florida bill would end diversity programs, ban majors, shift power at universities
The measure in the Florida House mirrors recent proposals by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

A bill filed this week in the Florida House would turn many of Gov. Ron DeSantis' wide-ranging ideas on higher education into law by limiting diversity efforts, vastly expanding the powers of university boards and altering course offerings.

House Bill 999, filed by Rep. Alex Andrade, R-Pensacola, proposes leaving all faculty hiring to boards of trustees, allowing a faculty member's tenure to be reviewed "at any time," and removing majors or minors in subjects like critical race theory and gender studies. It would also prohibit spending on activities that promote diversity, equity and inclusion and create new general education requirements.

DeSantis' administration has been alluding to legislation like this for weeks. In early January, his budget office required all universities to detail what they spend on diversity, equity and inclusion programs. And on Jan. 31, the governor held a news conference announcing a sweeping package of changes that mirror those in Andrade's bill.

Andrade was not immediately available for comment, his office said.

General education courses, the bill says, "may not suppress or distort significant historical events or include a curriculum that teaches identity politics, such as Critical Race Theory, or defines American history as contrary to the creation of a new nation based on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence." It spells out communications, humanities, social sciences, natural sciences and math courses that may count as general education credits.

"Whenever applicable," the bill says, the courses should "promote the philosophical underpinnings of Western civilization and include studies of this nation's historical documents, including the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights and subsequent amendments there to, and the Federalist Papers."

In addition to existing metrics like graduation rates and retention rates, universities also would be evaluated on how well they provide industry certifications and whether they are educating students "for citizenship of the constitutional republic."

In addition, the bill would greatly expand the role of boards of trustees at each school, which in turn would increase the governor's role in university life. The governor holds the greatest influence on who serves as a university trustee, with the ability to appoint six members to each board. The state Board of Governors can make five appointments, but that panel is also largely appointed by the governor.

The bill would require all faculty hiring to be done by boards of trustees. The boards may delegate the role to presidents, but a president would not be able to delegate the role to anyone else.

"The president and the board are not required to consider recommendations or opinions of faculty of the university or other individuals or groups," the bill says. It also would make presidents responsible for conducting performance evaluations of all employees making over $100,000.

In addition, the bill would prohibit diversity statements, which are short essays often used during the hiring or promotion process to describe a candidate's commitment to diversity and equity.

But the measure also makes clear it would not do away with every function that university diversity offices typically tend to. It would not prohibit programs for Pell Grant recipients, first generation college students, nontraditional students, transfer students, students from low-income families or students with unique abilities.

DeSantis' Jan. 31 announcement included only basic information on the "civics institutes" he proposed at three of the state's 12 public universities, but Andrade's bill offers new details.

The Florida Institute for Governance and Civics at Florida State University, established in 1981, would develop coursework about the origins of the American political system; develop resources for K-12 and college students "that foster an understanding of how individual rights, constitutionalism, separation of powers, and federalism" function; and become a national resource on polling and making civic literacy recommendations, among other duties.

The Adam Smith Center for Economic Freedom at Florida International University, funded by the Legislature in 2020, would function as a college — hiring faculty, enrolling students and awarding degrees.

The Hamilton Center for Classical and Civic Education at the University of Florida, established last year, would coordinate with the other two centers, according to the bill.

[Razgovory]

Yikes.

[The Minsky Moment]

*shrug*
Top faculty will leave, the university system will struggle to recruit replacements, the quality of the system will fall.

Florida's loss, rest of America's gain.

[Josquius]

Amazing they lash out at identity politics despite that being their entire schtick.

[Valmy]

Amazing they lash out at identity politics despite that being their entire schtick.

That has pretty much been the MO for American Social Conservatives for two hundred years.

[The Larch]

What surprises me is how little backlash seems to be coming from all these measures. What has happened in Florida that has turned a battleground state into the new Mecca of reactionary conservatism? De Santis squeaked by in his first election for Florida governor, but steamrolled in his second one (he went from winning by 0'4% to winning by 20%). What is exactly going on over there? How come nobody is saying enough is enough?

[Oexmelin]

*shrug*
Top faculty will leave, the university system will struggle to recruit replacements, the quality of the system will fall.

Florida's loss, rest of America's gain.

Please remember that Ron DeSantis has national aspirations, and that Republican wet dream is already being discussed elsewhere.

[Oexmelin]

What surprises me is how little backlash seems to be coming from all these measures. What has happened in Florida that has turned a battleground state into the new Mecca of reactionary conservatism? De Santis squeaked by in his first election for Florida governor, but steamrolled in his second one (he went from winning by 0'4% to winning by 20%). What is exactly going on over there? How come nobody is saying enough is enough?

I think the last few years in the US has shown how these things get normalized very quickly, how collective action, especially on the left, has been undermined for years in favor of courtroom activism, and how faith in some form of magical pendulum movement will inevitably bring back sanity.

I mean - a lot of my colleagues in Florida are pissed off, and scared, and angry. Their solution: write a strongly worded letter. FFS.