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[Sheilbh]

UK figure is a bit strange, people not reconciled to Irish independence  ?

[The Larch]

Presumably Spain is Gibraltar?

It has to be, no other place really makes sense. Unless it's about the Rosellón/Rosselló/Roussillion, and I guess that Catalan separatists would be the ones most interested on it. 

I like that Italy is more or less evenly balanced on whether it has any territorial claims - and what are they, Albania?!

I'd put my bets on the Istria peninsula, which had a sizeable Italian minority until the 50s, and to this day still has some towns where Italian speakers are the majority. Dalmatia would maybe follow down the list. More outlandish claims could be the Ticino canton, Nice, Corsica or Malta.

[Sheilbh]

I'd put my bets on the Istria peninsula, which had a sizeable Italian minority until the 50s, and to this day still has some towns where Italian speakers are the majority. Dalmatia would maybe follow down the list. More outlandish claims could be the Ticino canton, Nice, Corsica or Malta.

Absolutely love it if it's some PCI hold-outs demanding annexaction of the Vatican City

Whatever happened to Italian Eurocommunism. It's all fascists now

[Duque de Bragança]

Presumably Spain is Gibraltar?

It has to be, no other place really makes sense. Unless it's about the Rosellón/Rosselló/Roussillion, and I guess that Catalan separatists would be the ones most interested on it. 

I like that Italy is more or less evenly balanced on whether it has any territorial claims - and what are they, Albania?!

I'd put my bets on the Istria peninsula, which had a sizeable Italian minority until the 50s, and to this day still has some towns where Italian speakers are the majority. Dalmatia would maybe follow down the list. More outlandish claims could be the Ticino canton, Nice, Corsica or Malta.

I like that Italy is more or less evenly balanced on whether it has any territorial claims - and what are they, Albania?!

Spain still has claims on Portugal, the Ilhas Selvagens mostly though, nowadays. 
FYI, between Madeira and the Canary Islands.

[Maladict]

Not sure where else to put this but this is bonkers polling NATO members on whether their neighbouring countries have territory that really belongs to them:

Looks like Balkanism starts at 40-45%, that's good to know.

[The Larch]

I'd put my bets on the Istria peninsula, which had a sizeable Italian minority until the 50s, and to this day still has some towns where Italian speakers are the majority. Dalmatia would maybe follow down the list. More outlandish claims could be the Ticino canton, Nice, Corsica or Malta.

Absolutely love it if it's some PCI hold-outs demanding annexaction of the Vatican City

Never in my life have I seen anyone claiming the Vatican for Italy, maybe that's only taking place in your imagination. 

Whatever happened to Italian Eurocommunism. It's all fascists now

Nah, not really, unless you count the Lega as proper fascists. At the moment the only "proper" post-fascist party in Italy is "Fratelli d'Italia" who fill the historical role that "Alleanza Nazionale" fulfilled in the Berlusconi era, junior party in a broader right wing coallition.

Eurocommunism in a way completely succeeded in Italy by following Berlinguer's thesis and becoming an essential part of its left wing bloc through alliances with other moderate parties, the "Compromesso Storico". When the PCI dissolved in 1991 it split in two, its mainline joining the newly created PDS which, in turn and after successive evolutions ended up becoming the PD, the country's largest left wing party. The splitter branch who refused to do so became the PRC, which to this day is still part of progressively more minoritarian left wing alliances.

[Sheilbh]

Never in my life have I seen anyone claiming the Vatican for Italy, maybe that's only taking place in your imagination. 

Nah, not really, unless you count the Lega as proper fascists. At the moment the only "proper" post-fascist party in Italy is "Fratelli d'Italia" who fill the historical role that "Alleanza Nazionale" fulfilled in the Berlusconi era, junior party in a broader right wing coallition.

Yeah I am thinking of FdI but also a Lega-FdI-Berlusconi coalition, which is plausible, is ideologically different and a lot further to the right than a Berlusconi-LN-AN coalition, even if they are made up of the same political forces because of the power balances within them if you know what I mean.

Eurocommunism in a way completely succeeded in Italy by following Berlinguer's thesis and becoming an essential part of its left wing bloc through alliances with other moderate parties, the "Compromesso Storico". When the PCI dissolved in 1991 it split in two, its mainline joining the newly created PDS which, in turn and after successive evolutions ended up becoming the PD, the country's largest left wing party. The splitter branch who refused to do so became the PRC, which to this day is still part of progressively more minoritarian left wing alliances.

God I love Berlinguer

But I feel like a more vigorous left needs to break from the PD given how flabby and broad it is

[The Larch]

Spain still has claims on Portugal, the Ilhas Selvagens mostly though, nowadays. 

No, not even those. And nobody knows them anyway.

[Duque de Bragança]

Spain still has claims on Portugal, the Ilhas Selvagens mostly though, nowadays. 

No, not even those. And nobody knows them anyway.

Spanish fishermen know them.  I'll grant you they are not always representative of your average Spaniard.
Not to mention Spain disputes the southern limit of the Portuguese Exclusive Economic Zone by claiming those islands are not islands but rocks.

[The Brain]

Spain still has claims on Portugal, the Ilhas Selvagens mostly though, nowadays. 

No, not even those. And nobody knows them anyway.

Spanish fishermen know them.  I'll grant you they are not always representative of your average Spaniard.
Not to mention Spain disputes the southern limit of the Portuguese Exclusive Economic Zone by claiming those islands are not islands but rocks.

No man is a rock.

[Maximus]

Not sure where else to put this but this is bonkers polling NATO members on whether their neighbouring countries have territory that really belongs to them:


I mean Hungary and Greece are not that surprising. Presumably Spain is Gibraltar? I like that Italy is more or less evenly balanced on whether it has any territorial claims - and what are they, Albania?!

The French number I understand because France should be 130 Departments. The UK presumably has an irredentist lot who either want Ireland or Calais back.

Surprised at the number of Canadians and Americans though. I mean with Canada that can only be the US who is illegitimately holding your territory, right?

Edit: Incidentally could get behind UK irredentism for Aquitane

I feel like 10-20% of the population is just always going to agree regardless of specific claims.

[Duque de Bragança]

No man is a rock.

[Barrister]

No man is a rock.

He's not "a rock".

He's "The Rock".

[Duque de Bragança]

No man is a rock.

He's not "a rock".

He's "The Rock".

The Rock is still a Rock, he just happens to be The One, byzanteen pedant

[Razgovory]

Not sure where else to put this but this is bonkers polling NATO members on whether their neighbouring countries have territory that really belongs to them:


I mean Hungary and Greece are not that surprising. Presumably Spain is Gibraltar? I like that Italy is more or less evenly balanced on whether it has any territorial claims - and what are they, Albania?!

The French number I understand because France should be 130 Departments. The UK presumably has an irredentist lot who either want Ireland or Calais back.

Surprised at the number of Canadians and Americans though. I mean with Canada that can only be the US who is illegitimately holding your territory, right?

Edit: Incidentally could get behind UK irredentism for Aquitane

I'm really curious what land Americans seem to think should belong to them.  The US is the third biggest country in the world.  We're pretty good on the whole land thing.