What does a BIDEN Presidency look like?

[Valmy]

Biden is trying to do exactly the opposite of that and assure establishment politicians they have nothing to fear, which is precisely what I expected him to do.

[DGuller]

What has Yang accomplished, though, besides being a rich businessman who's actually not at all rich?  Does he bring any proven skills to the table?

[Valmy]

What has Yang accomplished, though, besides being a rich businessman who's actually not at all rich?  Does he bring any proven skills to the table?

Well he ran non-profits and you don't get rich that way.

Any particular skills you are thinking of? He is an idea guy.

[DGuller]

What has Yang accomplished, though, besides being a rich businessman who's actually not at all rich?  Does he bring any proven skills to the table?

Well he ran non-profits and you don't get rich that way.

Any particular skills you are thinking of? He is an idea guy.

Skills that translate to managing a large bureaucracy.  Ability to effective fight political battles.  Idea guys don't necessarily make for good managers.

[Admiral Yi]

Avril Haines named for DNI.  Worked as Deputy Director of CIA under Obama.

[Valmy]

What has Yang accomplished, though, besides being a rich businessman who's actually not at all rich?  Does he bring any proven skills to the table?

Well he ran non-profits and you don't get rich that way.

Any particular skills you are thinking of? He is an idea guy.

Skills that translate to managing a large bureaucracy.  Ability to effective fight political battles.  Idea guys don't necessarily make for good managers.

Ah good points.

He has managed organizations for most of his career so he has management skills but I don't know if any jobs prepare you well enough to be skilled at running a Federal Bureaucracy. I think his last two or so years have demonstrated he is politically savvy, at least savvy enough for this kind of consideration, but that is a different kind of political battle. I think he is as prepared and skilled as a political appointee to a lower level cabinet position would be expected to be, if not more.

[PDH]

fanboi

[The Brain]

How common are antediluvians in top jobs in other kinds of organizations in the US? Like major corporations?

Very common in the olde thyme industries. Tech has broken that recently but some day Bezos and all them will be old and still probably CEOs.

Well owners are a special case that's not really comparable to hired people or elected politicians. I was looking for a pattern in the US of picking ancient people for important top jobs, if such a pattern exists. When major corporations in America hire someone for the top job, do they often hire people who are pushing 80?

[Admiral Yi]

Well owners are a special case that's not really comparable to hired people or elected politicians. I was looking for a pattern in the US of picking ancient people for important top jobs, if such a pattern exists. When major corporations in America hire someone for the top job, do they often hire people who are pushing 80?

Doesn't happen.

[garbon]

How common are antediluvians in top jobs in other kinds of organizations in the US? Like major corporations?

Very common in the olde thyme industries. Tech has broken that recently but some day Bezos and all them will be old and still probably CEOs.

Well owners are a special case that's not really comparable to hired people or elected politicians. I was looking for a pattern in the US of picking ancient people for important top jobs, if such a pattern exists. When major corporations in America hire someone for the top job, do they often hire people who are pushing 80?

I'm not sure how elected politicians are like hired people.

[The Brain]

How common are antediluvians in top jobs in other kinds of organizations in the US? Like major corporations?

Very common in the olde thyme industries. Tech has broken that recently but some day Bezos and all them will be old and still probably CEOs.

Well owners are a special case that's not really comparable to hired people or elected politicians. I was looking for a pattern in the US of picking ancient people for important top jobs, if such a pattern exists. When major corporations in America hire someone for the top job, do they often hire people who are pushing 80?

I'm not sure how elected politicians are like hired people.

What do you mean?

[garbon]

What I said.

[The Brain]

Presumably those two things would need to be similar to make it worthwhile comparing them to top corporate jobs.

I don't follow. They are both positions that other people pick you for, unlike owners of corporations or politicians that don't bother with elections.

[viper37]

It just seems like possibly Biden especially should be using this to promote younger talent/give them a chance rather than people from his generation (and should be promoting young figures on his wing of the party). But also I know people have commented on the lack of depth/underwhelming candidates in the Democrats but if so many senior positions are taken up by people in their 70s that might be part of the problem in the modern age.

I agree, but it would be against his nature: play safe, seek agreement from as much people as possible.
Americans tend to be much more conservative than we are, in their politics.  And even here, they talk all they want about how nice it is to have "youngsters" (meaning 40-50 I guess ) actually interested in politics, but whenever a younger candidate presents itself in any kind of leadership position, he gets slammed for his/her lack of experience.  Fringe leftist party get away with it, because the electors figure they won't do anything in the opposition (and they're right), and if one of the major traditional party does it, these kind of candidates serve as back benchers with no real responsibilities, and if they ever commit a mistake, they lose whatever responsibilities they have.

[Solmyr]

It's done in Europe too. Our 35-year old female PM is still slammed by right-wingers for "lack of experience" (despite having served in municipal politics for 10 years). Meanwhile, the previous PM (a conservative middle-aged man) had nothing of the kind despite having come to his party leadership directly from business with no political career.