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Started by Caliga, November 07, 2020, 12:07:22 PM

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The Minsky Moment

I've met Ted Cruz in non-formal settings, prior to his attaining high political office.  As to political matters, you could not have a reasonable conversation with him.  If anything, he seems to have become a little more reasonable for public consumption.
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Jacob

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 08, 2023, 02:10:08 PMI've met Ted Cruz in non-formal settings, prior to his attaining high political office.  As to political matters, you could not have a reasonable conversation with him.  If anything, he seems to have become a little more reasonable for public consumption.

So he's a true believer, basically?

Valmy

Quote from: Jacob on February 08, 2023, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 08, 2023, 02:10:08 PMI've met Ted Cruz in non-formal settings, prior to his attaining high political office.  As to political matters, you could not have a reasonable conversation with him.  If anything, he seems to have become a little more reasonable for public consumption.

So he's a true believer, basically?

Yeah he is a fanatic. I frankly would prefer an old school corrupt Texas politician, we didn't know how good we had it.
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Razgovory

He's detested by other Republicans.  I think it's possible he's just an asshole.
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The Larch

Can Iowan and Minnesottan kids do a charming victorian chimney sweep accent?

QuoteIowa, Minnesota considering loosening child labor laws as job market tightens

As local economies grapple with a tight labor market, some state legislatures are looking to loosen child labor protections to help employers meet hiring needs.

Experts say this is part of a continuing trend in labor economics. When employers struggle to find talent, many prefer to hire young, cheap workers rather than raise wages and benefits to attract older adults.

"Because of the high demand for workers, where there are holes in the system, child labor can unfortunately become trapped in keeping some of those holes in the workforce," said David Weil, a professor of social policy and management at Brandeis University and a former professor of social policy at Brandeis University. Wage and Hour Administrator in the Department of Labor.

Legislators in Iowa and Minnesota introduced bills in January to loosen child labor law rules around age and workplace safety protections in some of the nation's most dangerous workplaces. Minnesota's bill would allow 16- and 17-year-olds to work in construction. The Iowa measure would allow 14- and 15-year-olds to do some work in meatpacking plants.

The Iowa bill, introduced by state Sen. Jason Schultz (R), would allow children under the age of 14 to work in industrial freezers and meat coolers, provided they are separate from meat preparation, and industrial laundry. work in

At age 15, they'll be able to work as lifeguards and swim instructors, do light assembly-line work after receiving exemptions from state officials, and load and unload products up to 50 pounds from vehicles And will stock store shelves with discounts. The strength and potential of a fifteen year old.

Iowa's proposal would also expand the hours teens can work during the school year, and protect businesses from civil liability if a youth worker becomes ill, injured or killed on the job.

Schultz did not respond to requests for comment. Critics say the proposal is dangerous and will subject child labor to hazardous environments.

"Do you remember images of children in construction and other dangerous work situations from the early 1900s?" Connie Ryan, executive director of the Interfaith Alliance of Iowa, said in testimony to state lawmakers, according to Radio Iowa. "There's a reason our society said it's not appropriate for children to work under those conditions."

Proponents of the Iowa bill argue that lowering the age limit fills a need. During the same hearing at which Ryan spoke, grocery industry lobbyist Brad Epperly argued that "terrible fewer" young people are working. He cited federal data that pegs the job participation rate for people aged 16 to 24 in 2021 at about 56 percent.

New Jersey enacted a law last year allowing teens to work when school is not in session. Wisconsin's state legislature lifted restrictions on work hours during the school year, but Gov. Tony Evers (D) vetoed the legislation. The Ohio State Senate unanimously passed a similar bill, but the measure died in the lower chamber of the legislature.

Federal regulators have scrutinized reports of child labor violations in recent months.

In August, the Labor Department sued a Hyundai supplier in Alabama after Reuters reported the facility used workers as young as 12.

A Nebraska labor contractor for meat producer JBS reached a settlement with the Department of Labor in December to resolve civil charges after regulators accused it of using "oppressive child labor." Law enforcement began an investigation at the plant after an underage worker allegedly suffered chemical burns from cleaning agents used at the plant.

To protect underage workers from hazardous environments and to prioritize schooling, federal law limits the types of work children can do, and the number of hours they can work each week.

States can impose additional requirements, and in the past they have targeted particularly dangerous workplaces.

However, those state laws are withdrawn from time to time for various reasons. Reid Maki, director of advocacy at the Child Labor Coalition, said some state economies depend on industries such as agriculture that rely on immigrant or migrant workers and their families.

He said that during tough economic times, some parents want their children to get jobs or help them work longer hours. And during a period of full employment – ��the US unemployment rate of 3.4 percent is the lowest in decades – employers want a larger workforce to ease their hiring stresses.

Experts say that children taking up these jobs may come at a high cost and could harm their long-term prospects in the labor market.

Shawn Bushway, a professor at the University of Albany, said some of the jobs kids do — babysitting, waiting tables at restaurants, eating ice cream — can be good for them. These types of jobs can teach responsibility, professionalism and financial literacy, said Bushway, who studies the effects of work on young people.

But other, more business-oriented jobs, such as agricultural work, landscaping and construction, can be more harmful, said Debbie Berkowitz, a fellow at Georgetown University's Kalmanowitz Initiative for Labor and the Working Poor. They are less likely to employ middle or upper class children who take up jobs for workplace experience or pocket change.

Instead, Berkowitz and other child labor critics say that low-income families are more likely to hire children for those roles. "Many child labor jobs are menial jobs and those skills are not transferable," Berkowitz said.

Bushway and other researchers have found that the less restrictive state regulations are with youth employment, the more children will work, and the more hours they will work. But limiting the number of hours children work can help their education, Berkowitz said.

"They don't have to go to college, but they can learn a skill and join an apprenticeship program and pull everyone up," she said. "And they can still work for a few hours on the weekend and after school, but they must focus on school."

FunkMonk

We could always, you know, reform immigration laws to make it easier to come to this country legally for work.  :secret:
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Tonitrus

Quote from: FunkMonk on February 14, 2023, 08:24:59 AMWe could always, you know, reform immigration laws to make it easier to come to this country legally for work.  :secret:

. But, they'll take our jobs!

Syt

Quote from: The Larch on February 14, 2023, 06:37:16 AMCan Iowan and Minnesottan kids do a charming victorian chimney sweep accent?

This will improve income of Dependents by 30%, but mortality of peasants, farmers, laborers, and machinists will increase by 5%. Also, literacy will drop. :hmm:

The Industrialists will approve, while the Trade Unions will be unhappy - since Trade Unionists in the US are a marginalized interest group, though, the latter shouldn't matter.
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Syt

Quote from: Tonitrus on February 14, 2023, 09:13:48 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on February 14, 2023, 08:24:59 AMWe could always, you know, reform immigration laws to make it easier to come to this country legally for work.  :secret:

. But, they'll take our jobs!

Won't someone think of the children('s jobs)?!
If we want to prevent catastrophic economic and societal change we will have to radically change our climate system.

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Syt

Also, this will probably create the next job categories for the "working poor."

"These jobs were NEVER meant to pay a living wage/were always meant as side income for kids/teens/students - get off your ass and get a proper job, you bum!"
If we want to prevent catastrophic economic and societal change we will have to radically change our climate system.

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crazy canuck

Quote from: FunkMonk on February 14, 2023, 08:24:59 AMWe could always, you know, reform immigration laws to make it easier to come to this country legally for work.  :secret:


But that would create more prosperity, which in turn would create a larger tax base, which in turn would provide more funds to government to provide essential services to the citizenry.  And that means less ability to privatize those essential services.  No chance that ever happens.
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Admiral Yi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f55QcO7nKn8

Joe proposes raising Medicare payroll tax from 3.8% to 5% on those earning 400K or more.

Jacob

Seems fine to me, but how will that pass the house?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Jacob on March 07, 2023, 02:02:17 PMSeems fine to me, but how will that pass the house?

It probably helps a bit that Republicans are on the back foot because of comments about sunsetting Social Security and Medicare.