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Started by Oexmelin, September 18, 2020, 06:36:10 PM

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Barrister

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Quote from: Sheilbh on September 21, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2020, 12:30:31 PM
So only people who belong to the right sort of religions get to sit on the Supreme Court?  That sounds... dangerous.
I do think the lack of Protestant representation on the 6 Catholics and 2 Jews Supreme Court is an issue :lol: :P

Or the fact that with the passing of RGB, every sitting Supreme Court Justice went to either Harvard or Yale for Law school (and RBG went to the only slightly less prestigious Columbia).

In this at least Barrett would be an improvement, having gone to Notre Dame.
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It would be great if they could get someone who entire personhood doesn't revolve around their misguided spin on the catholic faith.
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Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2020, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 21, 2020, 12:04:29 PM
But she's not a "normal" catholic. In general, at least in canada and europe, they seem to be less pushy about their beliefs (when compared to the various protestant' variations). But she's not normal, she's in a weird catholic cult. i would very much question her beliefs and her judicial integrity (plus her over all decision making skills).

also, what the hell America, even your Catholics are weird. What's in the water down there.

So only people who belong to the right sort of religions get to sit on the Supreme Court?  That sounds... dangerous.

The right sort of mentality. You want to go to church on sunday and pray to god, but can differentiate your wants from the wants of the majority? More power to you. You want to join a cult where you pledge loyalty and accountability to a leader? Yeah, no, you're not fit to be a judge that can decide serious outcomes.

Btw, i don't care about people religion for the most part. I was raised catholic, and some of my good friends are religious ( :P ), but when it comes to a  point where you have power over peoples lives i can't trust someone when i don't think they'll acquiesce to the majority/their constituents view because of their religious view.

It becomes more complicated when i think the majority are wrong, but i'm not a judge in the superior court, so i don't have to deal with it lol
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Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2020, 12:38:44 PM
Or the fact that with the passing of RGB, every sitting Supreme Court Justice went to either Harvard or Yale for Law school (and RBG went to the only slightly less prestigious Columbia).

In this at least Barrett would be an improvement, having gone to Notre Dame.
And geographic spread! Which used to be really important and I think might have strange effects on expected votes. I know that lots of people said Gorsuch's surprising opinion on Indian country laws were linked to him being a Westerner both by his own background the district he worked in before the Supreme Court.

I think most of the current justices are overwhelmingly DC and North-East.

Edit: Also it's different here because Northern Irish and Scots law is an equal legal system so we need Scots and Northern Irish judges on the UK Supreme Court but geographic diversity is the one bit of diversity the UK Supreme Court actually manages to do  :Embarrass:
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I assume BB would have no issue with a Supreme Court candidate from the Flying Spaghetti Monster Church then?

No questions are to be asked about the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!! It's my religion!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

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Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2020, 11:42:54 AM
HMBob - she very much denies she wishes to impose her religion on others.  But she does say her decisions are "informed" by her faith.
And that doesn't scare you?

Shouldn't a judge's decisions be informed by the laws of the country, not his/her personal faith?
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Quote from: Zoupa on September 21, 2020, 01:53:16 PM
I assume BB would have no issue with a Supreme Court candidate from the Flying Spaghetti Monster Church then?

No questions are to be asked about the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!! It's my religion!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

FSM is such obvious parody I wouldn't give it a moments thought.

Better hypothetical would be a Scientologist.   :ph34r:
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Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2020, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 21, 2020, 01:53:16 PM
I assume BB would have no issue with a Supreme Court candidate from the Flying Spaghetti Monster Church then?

No questions are to be asked about the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!! It's my religion!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

FSM is such obvious parody I wouldn't give it a moments thought.

Better hypothetical would be a Scientologist.   :ph34r:

How dare you. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as real as your God  :)

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I think it's possible to be a kook and still be a good judge, but it certainly warrants careful consideration.
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Barrister

Quote from: Zoupa on September 21, 2020, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2020, 01:58:29 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 21, 2020, 01:53:16 PM
I assume BB would have no issue with a Supreme Court candidate from the Flying Spaghetti Monster Church then?

No questions are to be asked about the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!! It's my religion!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

FSM is such obvious parody I wouldn't give it a moments thought.

Better hypothetical would be a Scientologist.   :ph34r:

How dare you. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as real as your God  :)

YOu see, I try and deflect and turn this into a more interesting debate, and instead you just have to go and insult me. :cry:
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Quote from: Barrister on September 21, 2020, 02:03:14 PM
YOu see, I try and deflect and turn this into a more interesting debate, and instead you just have to go and insult me. :cry:
I have no issues with a Scientology religious test :ph34r:
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