UK extends visa rights to 3 million Hong Kongers

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Monoriu

Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2021, 09:17:01 PM
Speaking of Taiwanese emigrating I was a little taken aback to see randos, though thankfully very few so far, calling out Andrew Yang as a CCP asset as he starts his NYC Mayor campaign. Anti-Chinese hysteria is coming to America...again.

I don't know.  When you stay in other people's country, you don't try to meddle in their politics.  I make a point not to participate in Canadian politics when I was in Vancouver.  I didn't vote, didn't talk about the candidates or parties, didn't put up any signs, didn't participate in any political event (there were some on my campus), etc.  That is for the best. 

Valmy

Well Andrew Yang is the son of Taiwanese immigrants. So he is only meddling in his own politics.

But I was just surprised to see that that was sufficient to suspect he was a CCP agent.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Monoriu

Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2021, 09:36:07 PM
Well Andrew Yang is the son of Taiwanese immigrants. So he is only meddling in his own politics.

But I was just surprised to see that that was sufficient to suspect he was a CCP agent.

Well, people call me a CCP agent too  :lol:

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2021, 09:17:01 PM
Speaking of Taiwanese emigrating I was a little taken aback to see randos, though thankfully very few so far, calling out Andrew Yang as a CCP asset as he starts his NYC Mayor campaign. Anti-Chinese hysteria is coming to America...again.

I think that's just part of the existing package of Trumptard memes. 

Trump stood up to the Chinks by making them buy more patriotic soybeans (which AFAIK they haven't done yet).
The Chinks, along with their bosom buddy Maduro, bribed all the election officials in states that went Biden.

viper37

Quote from: Monoriu on January 20, 2021, 09:32:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2021, 09:17:01 PM
Speaking of Taiwanese emigrating I was a little taken aback to see randos, though thankfully very few so far, calling out Andrew Yang as a CCP asset as he starts his NYC Mayor campaign. Anti-Chinese hysteria is coming to America...again.

I don't know.  When you stay in other people's country, you don't try to meddle in their politics.  I make a point not to participate in Canadian politics when I was in Vancouver.  I didn't vote, didn't talk about the candidates or parties, didn't put up any signs, didn't participate in any political event (there were some on my campus), etc.  That is for the best.
You've changed so much since you left for your home country, where you regulardly indulge in political discussions about candidates or parties, put up signs and participated in every political event of the last decade in HK.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: Monoriu on January 20, 2021, 09:39:50 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 20, 2021, 09:36:07 PM
Well Andrew Yang is the son of Taiwanese immigrants. So he is only meddling in his own politics.

But I was just surprised to see that that was sufficient to suspect he was a CCP agent.

Well, people call me a CCP agent too  :lol:
Surprising.  As if all that criticism about Winnie-the-Pooh wasn't enough to label you as a freedom fighter for all Chinese, HKers and mainland alike.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Maladict

Quote from: Monoriu on January 20, 2021, 09:32:44 PM

I don't know.  When you stay in other people's country, you don't try to meddle in their politics.  I make a point not to participate in Canadian politics when I was in Vancouver.  I didn't vote, didn't talk about the candidates or parties, didn't put up any signs, didn't participate in any political event (there were some on my campus), etc.  That is for the best.

If you make it your home it's your country, whatever your nationality is. You're already meddling by living there.

Sheilbh

Visa applications are now open - I imagine there won't be many applications because of covid.

Also for holders of BN(O) passports, Hong Kong SAR passports or EEA passports there will be an online application portal on 23 February. Crucially there is no requirement to visit a visa application centre for the online application route.

Very hopeful people can easily take advantage of this (probably once covid's less of an issue).
Let's bomb Russia!

Monoriu

#308
I have said it before and I will say it again.  It is best for everybody if the rioters and their sympathisers leave. 

In the long-run, a population exchange is needed to resolve the situation.  Those who insist in HK independence, a closed and protected market from the Mainland, and democracy should leave.  The financial, IT and other Mainland specialists that are really needed in the economy and are willing to obey Hong Kong's laws come and replace them. 

Hong Kong will get better and more productive people, get rid of the rioters, reduce the population pressure and housing prices, allow more social mobility, and cut down on the number of votes and political support for the rioters.  We need people who understand the Mainland market to do business with them.  Those who fail to compete in this new reality are welcome to leave. 

In other words, we want the best of the best.  Not those who happen to be born here. 

Zanza

Mono, suppose you are willing to live and work according to Beijing's rules, what does Hong Kong offer that you can't get even better in Shanghai? Why would the best choose Hong Kong? The unique advantage Hong Kong had was rule of law. 

Monoriu

Quote from: Zanza on February 01, 2021, 01:49:44 AM
Mono, suppose you are willing to live and work according to Beijing's rules, what does Hong Kong offer that you can't get even better in Shanghai? Why would the best choose Hong Kong? The unique advantage Hong Kong had was rule of law.

Well, the rule of law is still the strongest in Hong Kong compared with the rest of China.  Hong Kong is the only international financial centre in Greater China.  Shanghai isn't an international financial centre.  At least not yet.  You can access google in HK, but not in Shanghai.

Working and living under Beijing's rules isn't difficult.  I see no need to adjust my own behaviour.  If you are content with being politically apathetic, I don't think it will affect you either. 

And someone like me doesn't really have a choice.  I can't find work in Shanghai. 

Threviel

Quote from: Monoriu on February 01, 2021, 03:00:58 AM

Well, the rule of law is still the strongest in Hong Kong compared with the rest of China.

That's damning with faint praise.

Threviel

Also it's just a matter of time until the ChiComs start to kidnap westerners in Hong Kong like they do in the mainland when western states don't behave as the want. Like the show trials against Canadians when that Huawei director was arrested in Canada.

Valmy

Quote from: Monoriu on February 01, 2021, 03:00:58 AM
If you are content with being politically apathetic,

Do you know such a person because that person is not you :lol:

You are pretty fanatically partisan. You even use slurs for your opponents, I don't even do that.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Monoriu

Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2021, 08:42:17 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on February 01, 2021, 03:00:58 AM
If you are content with being politically apathetic,

Do you know such a person because that person is not you :lol:

You are pretty fanatically partisan. You even use slurs for your opponents, I don't even do that.

I have strong views, but I don't act on them  :bowler: