Bernie v Joe, Who do you like?

[Admiral Yi]

durka durka

[Barrister]

Uncle Joe.

[Sheilbh]

I like them both. I think Bernie has a better chance against Trump.

[The Brain]

I don't know them and I don't care to know them.

[Iormlund]

Biden would be part of the "dandruff right" over here. So the other guy wins by default.

[edit] Also, he's a creep.

[Eddie Teach]

Bernie.

[DGuller]

Biden wouldn't be my first choice, but against Sanders he would be the only choice.  Credit to Bernie for moving the Overton window, but he's just not a serious candidate for a president.  Not on his own, and definitely not when you consider the impact of his candidacy on other elections that matter.

[Barrister]

I like them both. I think Bernie has a better chance against Trump.

I think there's a reason why Trump is pulling so hard for Bernie, and doing what he can to bring down Biden...

[Eddie Teach]

Because Trump has so much political savvy.

[DGuller]

Because Trump has so much political savvy.

That's pretty much the only kind of savvy he has.  He, or his handlers, doesn't really matter.

[Barrister]

Because Trump has so much political savvy.

He has more than you'd think.

[The Brain]

Because Trump has so much political savvy.

He has more than you'd think.

The umbrella move is the signature of a 5D chess player.

[Maximus]

I like them both. I think Bernie has a better chance against Trump.

I think there's a reason why Trump is pulling so hard for Bernie, and doing what he can to bring down Biden...

Or is he pretending to pull for Sanders knowing that it will hurt his chances at the nomination? This is one of those infinitely recursive questions. I don't think there's much to be gained from watching Trump. I personally think he's terrified of Sanders.

But the real reason to believe that Sanders is more likely to beat trump is that he will drive up turnout where it matters. Biden will drive it down.

[grumbler]

Sleepy Joe, though not by a lot.  I tend to agree that he'd pull the Democratic slate behind him better than someone who isn't even a Democrat.

[DGuller]

I like them both. I think Bernie has a better chance against Trump.

I think there's a reason why Trump is pulling so hard for Bernie, and doing what he can to bring down Biden...

Or is he pretending to pull for Sanders knowing that it will hurt his chances at the nomination? This is one of those infinitely recursive questions. I don't think there's much to be gained from watching Trump. I personally think he's terrified of Sanders.

But the real reason to believe that Sanders is more likely to beat trump is that he will drive up turnout where it matters. Biden will drive it down.

Is there proof of Sanders having magical turnout powers?  From what I've read on 538, that hasn't materialized.