Humankind - the Civ killer?

[Sheilbh]

Sure, but it's not a distinction in modern usage of those words.

[Maladict]

Sure, but it's not a distinction in modern usage of those words.

I'm only pointing out that these developers, trying to create some kind of historical accuracy, have made an inexcusable mistake.

Your defense of sloppy modern day word use is worrying but I won't argue against it.

[Sheilbh]

I'm only pointing out that these developers, trying to create some kind of historical accuracy, have made an inexcusable mistake.

Your defense of sloppy modern day word use is worrying but I won't argue against it.

I suppose my point is being understood is more important than being right and I think in modern English the distinction between amphitheatre and theatre is whether there's a roof rather than the actual shape.

But I am a savage when it comes to these issues

[Syt]

I'd argue that most people hearing the word "amphitheater" will associate it primarily with the Greek theaters. And when they think of the Roman round amhitheater they'd probably refer to it as, (thanks Gladiator movies) an arena.

It doesn't help that there's many modern venues these days that are called amphitheater but are not circular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_amphitheatres

Actually, it's one of those things I'd expect to see on QI. "Which of these is an amphitheater?" Or "In Classical Greece, what where the venues called where tragedies and comedies were played?" (With a klaxon waiting if someone says "amphitheatre" )

[Maladict]

I'd argue that most people hearing the word "amphitheater" will associate it primarily with the Greek theaters. And when they think of the Roman round amhitheater they'd probably refer to it as, (thanks Gladiator movies) an arena.

I know, I've had to reconsider some friendships over this matter.

[Josephus]

Man, this thread has gone all Languish.

[grumbler]

I'm surprised that they include Mycenaeans and Greeks, what with one being the successor of the other, for all intents and purposes. They could have added the Hittites or China instead.

There are lots of civs there that didn't exist simultaneously.  The Harappans were contemporaries of the Sumerians and were more than a thousand years gone by the time of the legendary founding of Rome.

[grumbler]

It is very much a distinction when talking about Greek and Roman buildings. No archaeologist, classicist or ancient historian would ever make that mistake, nor would the ancients as far as I know. An amphitheatre has the full 360 degrees, a theatre 180 degrees (Roman) or slightly more (Greek).

Now that I've investigated more, I can see why you are saying this, but would point out that the audience for the game likely doesn't include archaeologists, classicists or ancient historians.  Seems to me to be an error about as important (or trivial) as showing Republican Romans in the lorica segmentata.

[Maladict]

It is very much a distinction when talking about Greek and Roman buildings. No archaeologist, classicist or ancient historian would ever make that mistake, nor would the ancients as far as I know. An amphitheatre has the full 360 degrees, a theatre 180 degrees (Roman) or slightly more (Greek).

Now that I've investigated more, I can see why you are saying this, but would point out that the audience for the game likely doesn't include archaeologists, classicists or ancient historians. 

Not anymore, no 

Seems to me to be an error about as important (or trivial) as showing Republican Romans in the lorica segmentata.

That's probably true. In my social circles you'd get savaged over an error like that, Languish often seems like a similar place. But not today, apparently 

[The Minsky Moment]

I'm surprised that they include Mycenaeans and Greeks, what with one being the successor of the other, for all intents and purposes. They could have added the Hittites or China instead.

Also they seem to conceive of the Mycenaeans as an entirely militarily focused civ - which seems to be based on the presumed association with the Troojan War epic.  I'm not aware of strong evidence to suggest they were more militaristic or militarily effective then say the Hittites or NK Egypt.  I personal think of the Mycenaeans as a trading civ with sophisticated administration for its time and place.

[The Brain]

I'm surprised that they include Mycenaeans and Greeks, what with one being the successor of the other, for all intents and purposes. They could have added the Hittites or China instead.

Also they seem to conceive of the Mycenaeans as an entirely militarily focused civ - which seems to be based on the presumed association with the Troojan War epic.  I'm not aware of strong evidence to suggest they were more militaristic or militarily effective then say the Hittites or NK Egypt.  I personal think of the Mycenaeans as a trading civ with sophisticated administration for its time and place.

Kim-Hotep?

Also, the Trojan War epic what?

[Sheilbh]

That's probably true. In my social circles you'd get savaged over an error like that, Languish often seems like a similar place. But not today, apparently 

I am an utter savage over the classical world. I've read bits and pieces but to be honest I'm just not that interested. I've been to Rome multiple times but I don't think I've ever been to the forum etc

[garbon]

That's probably true. In my social circles you'd get savaged over an error like that, Languish often seems like a similar place. But not today, apparently 

I am an utter savage over the classical world. I've read bits and pieces but to be honest I'm just not that interested. I've been to Rome multiple times but I don't think I've ever been to the forum etc

[Habbaku]

 

[crazy canuck]

That's probably true. In my social circles you'd get savaged over an error like that, Languish often seems like a similar place. But not today, apparently 

I am an utter savage over the classical world. I've read bits and pieces but to be honest I'm just not that interested. I've been to Rome multiple times but I don't think I've ever been to the forum etc

What are you doing here?