Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[DGuller]

That Alexander stuff makes me wonder about the vaccine prioritization.  Does it make more sense to vaccinate first those who are more likely to die from Covid, or those who are more likely to super-spread it?  Maybe one vaccine spent on a partying asshole can save multiple grannies.

[Sheilbh]

Yeah - that's really concerning and it also doesn't look like there's an outbreak in one area with other areas being okay so you couldn't really move people because it seems like capacity will be needed in most regions.

What are the Christmas plans there?

[Sheilbh]

That Alexander stuff makes me wonder about the vaccine prioritization.  Does it make more sense to vaccinate first those who are more likely to die from Covid, or those who are more likely to super-spread it?  Maybe one vaccine spent on a partying asshole can save multiple grannies.

I think round 1 priority in the UK include NHS workers and care home workers who are possibly quite likely to spread it if they get it (especially asymptomatically) and spread it to vulnerable people.

[Barrister]

That Alexander stuff makes me wonder about the vaccine prioritization.  Does it make more sense to vaccinate first those who are more likely to die from Covid, or those who are more likely to super-spread it?  Maybe one vaccine spent on a partying asshole can save multiple grannies.

I've seen that argument being made, but it does seem to run up against a "fairness" objection.

Another similar one is to what extent should drug addicts, smokers, or the overweight be prioritizes as being more vulnerable due to pre-existing conditions.

[Syt]

Apparently Austria aims at 900k doses of vaccine till March, so at 2 doses per person, we're looking at 5% of the population.

They're confident that "everyone who wants" can be vaccinated until some time in summer.

[Sheilbh]

Another similar one is to what extent should drug addicts, smokers, or the overweight be prioritizes as being more vulnerable due to pre-existing conditions.

Of course they should if they're clinically vulnerable - same goes for prisoners or old people who have spent their lives being absolute dicks to everyone. Surely the priority should be based on a combination of risk to that individual's health and risk of that individual passing it on (so super-spreadiness plus the vulnerability of the population they are likely to mix with/pass it on to).

[Iormlund]

My wife was also sick and got it before me and she had colleagues that had been skiing in Italy and had become sick with the flu there. Our kids got it and they were sick for like a day. We didn't start to think about Covid until a few months afterwards and might misremember the sequencing. So I don't know and I'll never get to know.

You say BB, it's unlikely to have been Covid.

I caught a nasty bug in February as well. Showed symptoms on 25 Jan to be more exact. Spent a month pretty sick. Cough, fever, inflammation of the bronchi. I've wondered since if it was COVID.

However my boss got the same bug a week earlier, and recently got COVID. And while the Feb bug hit him unusually hard, COVID's really fucked him up. He is (was) a healthy 45 yo in very good shape. COVID sent him to the hospital. It's been a month since he got sick and he can barely speak.

[Threviel]

Sounds plausible. That and my nieces bad bout put the fear of Covid in me. If a cold can have effects lasting a year I do not want to know what Covid would do to me.

[Barrister]

Sounds plausible. That and my nieces bad bout put the fear of Covid in me. If a cold can have effects lasting a year I do not want to know what Covid would do to me.

I was talking with a young defence lawyer who I'm friendly with (we often talk hockey) who commented he had caught Covid, and how he still felt tired and easily winded weeks afterwards.  And this guy isn't much past 30 and seems pretty healthy.  I'm definitely trying to be cautious.

[celedhring]

Me too, with vaccinations coming it would be quite shitty to catch it in the final stretch...

[DGuller]

Me too, with vaccinations coming it would be quite shitty to catch it in the final stretch...

Yeah, it's like dying in the last days of WWI.  I'm going to do my best to hold out until I can get vaccinated.

[Barrister]

Me too, with vaccinations coming it would be quite shitty to catch it in the final stretch...

They're not coming that soon - probably 6 months out for me (if not more).

[DGuller]

Hopefully the herd effect would start acting, so even before healthy young bucks like us can get vaccinated, we won't be around people who can get us infected.

[Threviel]

I imagine we have a harsh winter ahead of us. It has barely started and the hospitals are already starting to fill up.

Massive vaccine efforts are probably weeks or months away and then it's going to take weeks or months for it to stop the disease.

[celedhring]

Me too, with vaccinations coming it would be quite shitty to catch it in the final stretch...

They're not coming that soon - probably 6 months out for me (if not more).

Yeah, the plan over here is achieveing 50% of the population by may-june. But as people get vaccinated infection rates should progressively decline.