US-Iran War Has Begun! Iran launches dozens of ballistic missiles!

[jimmy olsen]

Planes don't usually blow up in mid air because of a mechanical failure. I think the last was TWA 800?

Being hit by a missile certainly seems a strong possibility.

[Razgovory]

Iran says it is impossible that a missle brought down the flight.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-missile-iran-1.5420736

So the missiles were purchased in 2007.  Trump has claimed that the missiles were bought with money furnished from Obama.  This leads us to one terrifying conclusion: President Obama has the ability to move backwards in time.

[Eddie Teach]

A simpler explanation would be that Obama furnished the funds before he was President.   

[Ancient Demon]

It's likely Iran shot down the plane, but it was probably not intentional (they could gain nothing from this).

[Ancient Demon]

Trump has claimed that the missiles were bought with money furnished from Obama.

I think he was referring to the ballistic missiles launched at US bases in Iraq, not the one that shot down the plane.

[alfred russel]

So it seems the Iranian response to the killing of Soleimani was to fire a bunch of missiles into the desert and a single missile into a civilian jetliner...

[Valmy]

It's likely Iran shot down the plane, but it was probably not intentional (they could gain nothing from this).

Well yeah. I don't think anybody thought they wanted to send us a message by shooting down a Ukrainian plane full of Canadians.

[DGuller]

Iran fessed up.  Only smart move left for them.

[Barrister]

Iran fessed up.  Only smart move left for them.

I dunno - Russia still doesn't admit involvement over MH17.

[mongers]

Iran fessed up.  Only smart move left for them.

I dunno - Russia still doesn't admit involvement over MH17.

Different situation, the Ukrainian airliner went down just outside the capital, hundreds of miles from the Iraqi border/ the Gulf, the only possible active military forces were Iranian.

Whereas MH17 happened right over a zone of conflict involving two if not three warring sides, so the Russians will fall back on 'plausible denial'


 

[Admiral Yi]

Different situation, the Ukrainian airliner went down just outside the capital, hundreds of miles from the Iraqi border/ the Gulf, the only possible active military forces were Iranian.

Whereas MH17 happened right over a zone of conflict involving two if not three warring sides, so the Russians will fall back on 'plausible denial'

That was my first thought as well, but it's a pretty thin defense.  Nobody thinks the rebels ordered a mobile SAM battery from Amazon.

I agree that fessing up is the smart move.  It tells Canada and Ukraine that Iran cares enough to embarrass itself.

[Hamilcar]

Noteworthy that Iran has now admitted that they fucked up with the airliner. That makes them more mature than the Russians who still lie about MH 17.

[Maladict]

Plus, it may help de-escalate tension. That's the only good thing that may come out of this.

[DGuller]

Noteworthy that Iran has now admitted that they fucked up with the airliner. That makes them more mature than the Russians who still lie about MH 17.

I think it was more a result of their position being completely untenable rather than maturity.  You can deny things that are 99.9% obvious, Russia and Trump keep showing that it's a viable strategy, but there still comes a point where you're got no choice but to concede to reality.

[alfred russel]

Noteworthy that Iran has now admitted that they fucked up with the airliner. That makes them more mature than the Russians who still lie about MH 17.

The president of the us has never admitted he was wrong about anything.

Iran: now with a better government than the US and Russia?