Star Wars Megathread

[Syt]

I thought the first two episodes were fine. Some catching up for people who didn't watch Rebels, and adding new characters. I liked all the Clone Wars/Rebels nostalgia bait. Lothal! Ryder Azadi! Jai! Huyang! Also, the scene of Ahsoka landing on Home One gave me flashbacks to the cutscenes in X-Wing.





Also liked how the starmap on that the baddies looked at opened very similar to the ones in KotOR.

Not super hyped about SW at the moment. While I did mostly enjoy Obi-Wan, Book of Boba Fett and Mando S3 they also left me a bit underwhelmed. Maybe Mando S3 more so than others, what with returning to status quo after the S2 finale so quickly. It didn't help that they set up a bunch of interesting conflicts only to resolve them incredibly quickly and painlessly. I'm all for subverting expectations, but it seemed to fizzle a fair bit in an effort to wrap things up for Ahsoka (which I assume may be the new "big story" (they are planning a climactic movie, I think?).

Kind of curious what the new galaxy will hold. Speculation is running wild with all kinds of possible legends connections, and my main worry is that it will be something completely mundane. However, it might also be a way to have a big, epic conflict that takes place far away from the "main plot" of the Star Wars galaxy.

[Syt]

Fun action episode .... except way too short.

Forgot to mention in the previous post that I loved Ep. 1's 70s b-movie style scroll text at the start. And that Huyang was clearly inspired by certain droid models in Star Wars The Old Republic (he first appeared about a year after the game launched).



Though with Huyang said to be 26k years old having been created around the founding of the Jedi order, I wonder what that means for the mini series scheduled to be set around that time period.

So yeah, fun action episode.

Random thoughts:
- liked the training sequence
- overall felt like a live action Rebels episode
- fairly straightforward theme of "Sabine and Ahsoka need to learn to work together again"
- some clear tension between Shin and Elspeth
- yay Jacen
- Senator Xiono - the dad of Kazuda Xiono (the main character of Star Wars Resistance)
- loved Shin wearing the old Jedi headsets (seen on Anakin/Obi-Wan at the start of Ep. 3)
- Purrgil!
- the turret section gave me KotOR 1 flashbacks
- the ship adrift gave me KotOR 2 flashbacks (the start of the game when the Ebon Hawk is adrift)
- who are the mooks working for the baddies?
- Marrok in his old rusty armor almost looks like a dude from a Dark Souls game
- the little fighters reminded me of planes like the Polykarpov I-16:

[Zoupa]

I feel like the issue for me is that I know in the back of my mind that none of this really matters (Ahsoka, Mando etc), since we know that in this period, the sequels are right around the corner and are pure shit.

[celedhring]

I feel like the issue for me is that I know in the back of my mind that none of this really matters (Ahsoka, Mando etc), since we know that in this period, the sequels are right around the corner and are pure shit.

Disagree with that stance, Clone Wars managed to tell some good (even great) Star Wars stories in spite of the calamitous prequels. You should try to enjoy (or not enjoy) each movie/show on its own.

[celedhring]

Anyway, today's episode was enjoyable, but ultimately a bit of a nothingburger. Still, liking it better than Mando 3 so far.

Thrawn definitely won't show up until the second half of the season, though. They're taking their sweet time.

[viper37]

the turret section gave me KotOR 1 flashbacks

It's the same sound, isn't it?

I feel like the issue for me is that I know in the back of my mind that none of this really matters (Ahsoka, Mando etc), since we know that in this period, the sequels are right around the corner and are pure shit.

Yeah. that sucks.

[crazy canuck]

Why do the writers need to redo the rear gunner routine, and recycle the same dialogue? At least the response this time wasn't don't get cocky.

[Zoupa]

I feel like the issue for me is that I know in the back of my mind that none of this really matters (Ahsoka, Mando etc), since we know that in this period, the sequels are right around the corner and are pure shit.

Disagree with that stance, Clone Wars managed to tell some good (even great) Star Wars stories in spite of the calamitous prequels. You should try to enjoy (or not enjoy) each movie/show on its own.

I greatly enjoyed Clone Wars, not only because of the show itself but because the original trilogy was coming up in the timeline, the fall of the Republic was interseting etc. Rogue One and especially Andor were IMO very very good. I'm even one of the few people who enjoyed Solo.

The time period from New Republic to First Order is not interesting to me, mainly because the sequels are coming up and the whole First Order/Palpatine returns is lame, nonsensical and cheapens the original trilogy in many ways.

The 1st season of Mando was great nonetheless, because it was self-contained stories, and had nothing to do with the Skywalker stuff. But then they brought Luke in for season 2 and uggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Ahsoka (the show) is not very impressive so far. But I like the characters, so it's enjoyable enough so far.

[celedhring]

I liked today's episode. In fact, it's the first non-Andor Star Wars stuff that I have thoroughly enjoyed since the Mando 2 finale. It helped that it was quite sparse in dialogue, which I feel is when Filoni live action scripts always work best 

Liked the lightsaber duels a lot, with Sabine mixing up Jedi and Mandalorian techniques, and all the references and styles brought from Japanese swordplay flicks. Stevenson manages to give a great presence to a villain that, for once, isn't written to chew scenery.

The only "but" is that I don't buy Sabine's choice in the episode. I think they are forcing the character too much, making her behave like an idiot too often in order to advance the arcs.

Also, why is Hera bringing her own child to a space battle? Now that's quite the take on parenting 

And the ending cliffhanger is what I hoped the show would attempt when it was first announced - I trust Filoni will get that relationship right, he's the person that has written that particular character the best.

[Syt]

- Marrok in his old rusty armor almost looks like a dude from a Dark Souls game

Still standing by this after today's episode.

Kinda similar to the sound of the Black and Silver Knights when they die.

Also ...



Some fan theories are that the "race from another galaxy" might be the Kwa (or an equivalent): https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kwa. In Legends they came from another galaxy - check - spent time on Dathomir - check - and created hyperspace gates. The Rakata were uplifted by the Kwa because of their force affinity. However, the Rakata then overthrew the Kwa and created their Infnite Empire which we see in KotOR and which lasted about 11,000 years - which would lead us back to the familiar star map design.

(The overthrow of the Rakata was name dropped in Andor.)

Btw, the Legends timeline has the Infinite Empire fall around the time the Jedi Order was founded, over 25,000 years BBY. Keep in mind that supposedly a show is in the works that looks at the founding of the Jedi order. ... Might we see the fall of the Infinite Empire of the Rakata and the rise of the Jedi? A nerd can dream, right?

For now I love that they actually put the World Between Worlds into live action.

Less crazy speculation: Ahsoka uses the Purgill to follow the others into the other galaxy.

[Solmyr]

This is seriously making me want to rewatch The Clone Wars and Rebels.

[viper37]

Also, why is Hera bringing her own child to a space battle? Now that's quite the take on parenting 

The Republic does not have free daycare for its officers outside of school time.

[Syt]

Holy shit, this was certainly an episode.


SPOILERS TO FOLLOW!



Clone Wars flashbacks (Ryloth, I think?)!
Live action clones! (In the movies they were all CGI.)
Captain Rex and the Siege of Mandalore!
Lightsaber action and "one last lesson."

Really enjoyed this one.

Random notes:

Nice to see Ahsoka the Gray becoming Ahsoka the White. It's been a common thing to compare her to Gandalf ever since this doodle by Filoni (there was speculation during the Clone Wars run that surely Ahsoka would die, because how would she not be mentioned in Ep. III?). https://i.postimg.cc/3wtxCSd8/image.png And of course in the epilogue of Rebels S4 we saw her in white robes with a staff, looking very Gandalf the White (minus beard ... I was going to say minus hat, but IIRC in the movies he loses the hat when he's reborn?)

In the story structure of the Hero's Journey (usually near the middle) you often have the Hero undergoing an ordeal in the belly of the beast to be reborn. Metaphorically, that's Ahsoka being in the World Between Worlds(TM) and the being saved from this near death appearance and switching into a "purified" white outfit with her character s having learned important wisdom. But they also, literally, enter the belly of a beast at the end of the episode ... I loved it, but I admit I rolled my eyes a bit when I realized this was a visual pun.

In a similar vein, I laughed that they brought an Ishi Tib (often called "Starfish" alien) to meet the space whales ... we all saw what you did there.

Kevin Kiner's soundtrack is awesome and deserves all the awards. Always loved his work, and I thought he hit it out of the park esp. with Bad Batch S2, but on Ahsoka he's ramping it up even more.

Generally the sound design was amazing. As a lover of spaceship porn the engine sounds of the New Republic ships arriving was *chef's kiss*

If there's a downside, I'd say it was Hera's still stiff performance, and Jacen is starting to grate a little bit.

[celedhring]

Hera and Jacen should be out of the picture after this episode (what's there for them to do?) which is probably a good thing. Gonna miss Chopper though...

I thought the Anakin-Ashoka scenes were a bit lacking... some great callbacks but for being the first time they see each other since the Rebels S2 finale it felt... light.

Also, surprised that Zeb hasn't been involved in this so far, given that in Mando they went all the way of showing that him and Teva worked together.

[crazy canuck]

This episode is written for people who know a lot about Star Wars.  Most of this episode was either meaningless, confusing or boring.


I watched Clone wars years ago and I watched Rebels.  I enjoyed them both.

But this show is being written for the people who are true believers.