Star Wars Megathread

[Barrister]

As a leafs fan i long ago learned that there's no incentive for a company to do a good job if they're going to make money anyway.

But they have all kinds of incentives.  They were going to crank out multiple Star Wars movies per year.  But instead each movie in the trilogy made less than the one before, and no Star Wars movies have come out since TROS.

I also don't understand why TROS had such a definitive ending, and didn't just set up for more movies in that era.  Instead all the content coming out it set in the time period prior to the new movies.

[viper37]

Patty Jenkins is a good (even excellent) director, but I suspect she wanted the hero of her movie, or Rogue Squadron's leader to be a female pilot, and Disney likely thought they have had enough with Rey in the last trilogy.

Why do you make up such mysoginistic crap? When the project was announced she said that for her it was a way to pay hommage to his father, who was a jet fighter pilot.

It's not mysoginistic.  I would have loved to see her movie.  With or without female super pilots.  With or without subtle hints at feminism.

I just think she wanted a female heroine and Disney did not want to have another one.  That's what amount to serious creative differences.  I think some people at Disney see the success of the Mandalorian and the failure of the last movie (in SW speak...) as a way to confirm their bias that female-led movies underperform à the box office.*  That's the reason why it took so long to make a Black Widow movie, because female led action movies tend to underperform at the box office.  And I'm guessing that, even with the pandemic going on, BW's numbers weren't that great, so they don't want to take any chances on that.

It is my opinion based on her previous interviews to Wonder Woman and the reaction of the ultra feminist crowd.  It does not mean I would not enjoy her movie, whatever way she choses to make it.

As soon as she accepted to make a SW movie, she had to know there would be a lot more micro-management in a continuous universe across many medias than in a self contained DC movie.

And Rian Johnson's film was by far the best of the new trilogy, it would have been much better if he had been in charge of it all instead of JJ Abrams.

Rian Johnson does not understand Star Wars.

Bombers are heavily shielded and armored.  They shouldn't be destroyed by a single hit from a Tie.  Also, a commander won't send a bomber squad unescorted, or with only one X-Wing, no matter how good the pilot is, as an escort.

You can't travel to a far away planet on the other end of the galaxy and be back in time for dinner when you left at 5 before 11.  Space travel isn't a Stargate, it's hyperspace in this universe, faster than light is not instantaneous.

The whole scene at the casino was stupid.

Luke Skywalker acted stupidly through this entire film, beginning with him throwing away his lightsaber.

The battlecruiser crashing through another one a lightspeed was the least stupid thing of the movie.

You can't communicate in real time with the Force, it isn't telepathy.  You can only communicate impressions.  Over far distance, you can only do it with someone whom you are very familiar with, like a master and his/her apprentice.

The Force does not let you act through objects that are distant and let you teleport them to you magicallyé

The post-credit scene with the kids was totally meaningless.

And so on and so on.

Is it a better movie than part 9?  Yes, absolutely.  But we ain't raising the bar very high.  It's worst than #7, whose only flaw was its total lack of imagination.






*They do under-perform, that is true, but I believe it's more a question of material given than the character's gender.  Also, there ain't many female-led action movies, so it's easier to spot one that fails compared to the many male-led action movies that went dud.

[celedhring]

Ahsoka show news are pouring in. They have cast Sabine, and they are starting to shoot on March 2022. I assume Thrawn is going to be in it, and I hope they do cast Mikkelsen, his portrayal in Rebels was just fantastic.

I read that Hayden Christensen is also set to appear. Anakin force ghost, I presume? Or Clone-Wars era flashbacks...

[viper37]

I'm betting on Clone Wars flashbacks.

[celedhring]

To the surprise of no one Rangers of the New Republic has been canned. Apparently they didn't even get to script phase.

https://gizmodo.com/star-wars-spinoff-rangers-of-the-new-republic-is-super-1848124833

[celedhring]

This is absurdly adorable 

https://www.brothers-brick.com/2021/12/11/__trashed-10/

[Syt]

Fabuland was my first Lego in 1979 or 80.

[Syt]

https://twitter.com/ATRightMovies/status/1473367673593483265?s=20

I don't think anyone but me and Zanza here will know of Ilja Richter (the German TV personality who was seemingly on screen all the time in the 70s and up till mid-80s).

[celedhring]

First episode of Book of Boba is fine. It looks like the show will jump between his sojourn in Tatooine after escaping the Sarlacc Pit and Star Wars Godfather (on that regard, I love Japanese homages in Star Wars but the "Daimyo" title he's been bestowed as crime lord is pretty on the nose).

They are definitely making Boba a good-ish guy, with the show going out of the way to show he doesn't want to rule with fear. Young Boba wasn't really too bloodthirsty in Clone Wars, but I hope the Tatooine flashbacks show a little more of why he's so cuddly.

Temuera looks noticeably fitter compared to how he looked in Mandalorian. I mean, he's still got the dad bod, but he looks incredible for being 60...

[Syt]

I liked the first episode. Oddly, the action bits left me a bit underwhelmed.

That said, I loved the world building in this (and the music which seems a mix between Mandalorian chants and spaghetti western soundtrack).

Random things I liked:
- the Jawa "dialogue" was largely lifted from A New Hope, and I'm not sure if I should be worried that I recognized a lot of them so readily
- the chill mediterranean rendition of the cantina song from A New Hope
- the detail in the city scenes - it would have been easy to keep the camera up close in action scenes and not add much background, but you can almost always see bits of the city in the background, busy streets underneath etc. adding to the feeling that this is a real place
- the voice of the droid at the start sounded familiar ... it's Matt Berry; I didn't recognize him at first because he's much more Marvin the Paranoid Android than his usual bombastic self I hope they keep doing such droid cameos (like Richard Ayoade in Mandalorian)

Edit: Oh, the Rodian. He speaks Huttese, of course, and while it's difficult to make out many words, we hear "sleemo" (which we know as insult from Star Wars Ep. I) and another he repeats is "stoopa" - I recognized it from Ben Burtt's "Galactic Phrase Book & Travel Guide" from 2001 (one of the few Star Wars books I retain, excellently illustrated by Sergio Aragones) where it means "fool".

Also, happy to see a Tatooine swoop bike gang (introduced originally in Shadows of the Empire).

[celedhring]

Ditto regarding the action scenes.

[spoiler]The fight against the energy shield ninjas was a bit dumb, indeed. And I feel that somebody as seasoned as Fett should kinda have known better than to try his flamethrower while boxed in. But it also featured Shand being ruthlessly efficient, which is something I always have time for. The reptilian centaur fight was pretty meh[/spoiler].

Also, silly detail that I probably have missed in the past, but it's the first time I notice *coins* in current canon Star Wars. I'd say all previous forms of currency have been chips of square/rectangular shapes.

[Syt]

Also, silly detail that I probably have missed in the past, but it's the first time I notice *coins* in current canon Star Wars. I'd say all previous forms of currency have been chips of square/rectangular shapes.

Good point. There were round coins in the casino at Canto Bight, but those might have been casino chips.

[Syt]

ScreenCrush has a good video about references and connections of the first episode: https://youtu.be/1-vL_WwFOyw (though not sure if it's actually EVERY easter egg and reference - title may be hyperbolical )

Like him I did feel sometimes reminded of the desert scenes in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly during some of Boba Fett's flashbacks.

[celedhring]

That was my same thought exactly. Particularly when he's tied and dragged by the tuskens.

[celedhring]

Watching the video and the words "Robert Rodríguez, one of my all-time favorite directors" should disqualify him from running a film youtube channel.